The Americans Season 3

She did seem to accept his story of working for that internal affairs division, and of their need to keep tabs on Gaad’s office.

So she wouldn’t be expecting Clark to be able to socialize with Gaad or anyone else in that office.

I just remembered that those sketches of Phillip and Elizabeth are floating around the FBI office. And Martha hasn’t seen them?

Make of this what you will, but I was livetweeting for the premiere (and generally since then, though last week was a mess). The actress either faved or retweeted my tweet about the gun when I said “Poor Martha no more.”

(Separately, this is why twitter is effin’ evil. It’s a spectacular positive feedback loop.)

I’m having a very hard time understanding what your post means. Do you work on the show? Or are you somehow employed by the producers?

I have some strong feeling about the actor who plays Martha but I’m very much afraid to just come out and express those feelings because, if you are somehow employed or involved with her, it would be nigh on impossible to have an honest discussion. If I said something that was offensive to her, I just could not imagine how you could let it pass.

One thing I wanted to ask about here, and it goes to the guy-under-the car murder…

By my count, there have been at least four people not connected to the intelligence world who have met their end through no fault of their own. They were killed for being at the wrong place at the wrong time:

  1. The guy driving the truck whom P and E tied to the tree, although IIRC they didn’t necessarily intend for him to die. (BTW this might be a borderline case. I don’t recall if the truck was civilian or military in nature)
  2. The student who walked in on P in the classroom in Season 2.
  3. The worker whom P blew away in the restaurant.
  4. Now the guy who was murdered for no other reason than he was a Northrop employee.

One of the few exceptions was when—in a rare show of compassion–E didn’t murder that warehouse worker in another Season 2 episode.

My question is whether these types of killings were commonplace in the real world of espionage. I can see where they might be necessary, but on the other hand, I’m wondering if spies made any kind of an effort to avoid the murder of innocents, if for no other reason than to avoid suspicion.

There was also the security guard in the Weinburger’s neighborhood back in season 1.

P was going to take out the Pastor but changed his mind. You know you’re in trouble when P puts on the leather gloves …

Not at all. We’re living in the future, mate; when I’m able to watch the show “live,” so to speak, I regularly livetweet. Most of the cast are on twitter, as are the showrunners. (Joel Fields favorited one of my earliest tweets about the show, when I was getting back on twitter; this resulted, I suspect, in my accidentally being followed by the show’s official twitter account for just under 24 hours. Freaked me right out.) Depending on their schedules, there are usually a few on during the show, and they’ll react to tweets about the show, usually by retweeting or favoriting tweets. (There’s also a possibility this is their social media people; it’s hard to tell, but most of their accounts look pretty damned authentic, and they’re not A-list stars.) The actress who plays Martha reacted positively to one of my tweets about the gun giving her some teeth, basically–that’s all. I wouldn’t take too much from it one way or another. (Gave me a little thrill, though not as much as when Costa Ronin noticed one of my tweets. swoon That’s about it, though.)

It’s kind of part of the fun of being in a “small pond” fandom like this–if I were tweeting about some ratiings monster like… like… actually, I have no idea what the ratings monsters are. Survivor? American Idol? …it’d be unlikely anyone would notice. But because I’m watching and tweeting about a niche show, I pretty regularly get to “interact” (albeit in a limited way) with the showrunners and cast.

I don’t know–it’s a shame Joe Weisberg doesn’t post here, eh?–but I have to think not. Would get you a lot of heat that isn’t particularly necessary. Also, my impression is that most espionage is a heck of a lot more boring than anything we ever see on tv/in the movies.

Martha is really engaging in Twitter and seems like a real nice person. Too bad she’s going to die on the show :frowning: we should have her join SDMB and opine in here.

Incidentally: Slate’s been doing an “Insider” podcast for this season, with (IIRC) one of the editors as the host, Joe Weisberg and Joel Fields as regulars, and at least one other person associated w/ the show per episode–either a writer, actor, director, etc. This week’s had Matt Rhys; it was a bit odd to hear his natural accent for the first time. Also, don’t call Philip a “househusband.”

Search for “The Americans Insider Podcast” on your podcast service of choice and you should be able to turn it up.

The ones who’re active on there all seem to be. My Americans-related tweets are noticed by Joel Fields on a fairly regular basis, and I’ve gotten a nod from Martha (I forget her name) and Costa Ronin as well. This is just good social media marketing–every time one of them faves or retweets me, much less actually responds to me, it makes me a little bit more attached to the show, and more likely to tell friends, etc. about it.

That sounds absolutely fabulous. Congratulations mate.

If it is ever possible and you think it is reasonable, please tell them that many experienced TV watchers think their show is just about the best thing to ever have happened to TV.

Tell Martha to get the hell out of there if Clarke puts his leather gloves on!

Judging from what happened in the March 4 episode (I’ll avoid details for those who don’t see it right away) and what was shown as a preview of next week’s episode, it appears two things are happening…

  1. Phillip is showing signs he’s tiring of all of this and one wonders how far he is from saying “screw this job…I can’t do it any more”…which may point to my prediction that Philip ultimately ends up defecting coming true…unless of course Elizabeth kills him first.

  2. Paige is going to have a major freak out when she finds out the truth. There was a great tease for a future scene where Paige in no uncertain terms confronts her parents with the bizarre life they lead, and she wants to know what the hell is going on. She notes that she has no extended family, and when the phone rings, mom and dad bolt out the door, regardless of the time of day.

By the way, speaking of Phillip…nice laugh, buddy. To me, it sounded as if he’d gotten a little too close to the helium machine.

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I would love to hear Matthew Rhys’ real speaking voice with his British accent.

That would be a real trip after 3 seasons of hearing him talk with an American accent.

Ask and you shall recieve.

Thank you ever so much AK84. That was very nice of you.

Wow! It was so amazing to hear him talk. Not only was his accent completely different, but it seemed to me that he spoke in an octave above his regular voice.

I loved it!

I’ve heard him interviewed as well, and I think he is of Welsh descent, and he has a cool accent. A great actor who does a fantastic job at “Americanising” his voice. I’ve seen other actors slip back into their regular accent on occasion during scenes—most notably during the film Primary Colors—but Rhys does a great job speaking like a typical American.

I like how Rhys varies his accents. When he’s with Martha he sounds different than when he’s with Elizabeth.

He really is a great actor. I’m just very disappointed that I have never seen him in anything before this show.

It seems obvious in retrospect that if Elizabeth wants to get Paige in on their true identities, she should start with a smaller lie… Paige might well thrive doing odd tradecraft-y things for what she believes is liberal-protesty-reasons, even if she would balk at learning the REAL truth.

I love the scenes in this show where the best lie is a lie that is also the truth… Philip opening up to Kimmy about the son he’s never met. Such clever writing.