Yep, different shows.
I’m saying the Centre asked her to tell them X, Y, and Z, and she told them X, Y, and Z. My assumption is that in cases when she is hiding something from them (as with Philip’s biological son Mischa) we are being given an omniscient view that this is the case.
You’re entitled to your opinion, but it’s highly heterodox. They were both nominated for Emmys this year, and this is what some major publications had to say about their acting chops:
Heh. This happens every coupe of weeks. Recently some guy writing on Entertainment Weekly posited the idea Ollie and Philip were actually brothers … think about that from a professional reviewer. And about the same time someone on here thought Gabriel was about to defect to the USA.
I have no idea …
Maybe it’s an indication of the quality of the showrunners and writers.
Welcome to the world of teenage children, which can mean parents walking on egg shells for a few years.
Fwiw, I love the natural acting between P&E - it was especially sweet when they got married, which I also think was the showrunners indulging the two leads somewhat (who had got married in real life).
I can’t be the only one that thinks there is absolutely zero chemistry between them on screen. Despite the fact that they are husband and wife in real life.
That’s what makes it so impressive - that despite being married IRL they still manage to portray what are essentially live-in co-workers so well (ie, no real chemistry but they do an excellent job of pretending).
The hints of vague jealousy when one of them has to sleep with someone else as part of their work are quite well done too, I think.
Some of the other stuff I have been predicting, I could absolutely turn out to be wrong about. There could be Margo Martindale twists galore; Renee could turn out to be a spy; the series could certainly end with Stan finding out about his neighbors and everything turning pear shaped.
But I guarantee you that Matthew Rhys and Keri Russell are not attempting to portray what you are describing, and lauding them for. Not in the show’s “present day” (in flashbacks to before the pilot, sure). Either they are doing a poor job of acting, or (what I’d call more likely) you’re doing a poor job of watching. ![]()
I don’t know how many of you have been married for 15+ years. I liked the scene when they’d been out with Stan and Renee fr an evening. Once alone, couples switch off again.
Isn’t ‘chemistry’ for the kids? These two are middle aged and tired every day. Really not La La Land.
The early seasons had them doing a lot more “Mum and Dad” and “Husband and Wife” stuff than they do recently. Including dealing with a bratty teenager and a broody one. And have 69 in their bedroom with each other. Later seasons have cut down on that.
The “69” was stage to keep Paige from ever coming into their bedroom without knocking.
I really have a hard time understanding how you seem so sure of yourself while also so sure others are wrong. What Martini said was pretty much exactly what I was going to say. Why *wouldn’t *the married actors attempt to play their characters exactly that way, since it’s exactly the way those two characters should be played.
You know what, forget I asked. But why do you watch the show if the two main characters are “acting wrong” according to you?
Uhhh…according to me? No. Try reading that again.
No. You.
Interestingly, Elizabeth is supposed to be the ranking officer, too.
Mail Robot! It is alive!
Well at least the Centre didn’t send them after an innocent woman. That was still much harder to watch than most of their killings though.
Yeah, I knew it was going to be rough as soon as they arrived. But the husband was truly innocent! ![]()
There was a lot of other interesting stuff earlier in the episode, but it’s hard to bring to mind now, after that overwhelming ending.
yeah. Ouf. Powerful.
What makes the murder of that old lady and her husband even worse is the thought of the amount of time and resources the KGB must have put in to track her down and punish her for crimes she was compelled to commit 40 years earlier in the midst of a brutal war. The Soviets couldn’t figure out how to sustain their starving population, yet they could pay back a decades-old grudge.
I guess that was the point: Ollie is chasing his tail with two-bob secretaries and the Jennings’ are validating the KGB in the wake of the wheat fiasco. The woman died for the self-interest of the KGB.
I still maintain all of it is a metaphor for a system on the edge of imploding; the three men standing together after one of them sent someone to a mental asylum, for speaking the truth they all knew, seems to underscore where we are. They ar all trying to hold up a system that’s falling through the floor.
Instead of ‘Winter is coming’ I think we can probably say ‘Gorby is coming’. Even Elizabeth can hear something in the wind.
Yeah, how awful that the Soviets were sore about having a genocidal war imposed on them. :rolleyes:
And it’s not like they ignored their agri sector in order to hunt the women down, they got a break recently.