WTF is going on? Every so often, you will see a picture of a 12 year old kid in some back-ass-water country proudly displaying his fully automatic AK-47.
The per capita income in this shithole place may (if they are lucky) be $50 a year. Now, I live in Texas, a great and gun-friendly state, and I can’t own or even get access to a weapon like this. I sometimes see a classified ad for a semi-auto AK on occasion, at about $1000 or more a pop. Needless to say a full auto version would be worth much more if it was available and legal.
Now it seems to me, if the good ol’ USA really wanted to stop these civil wars, we could just go buy their fucking guns. One of these motherfuckers could live out a good life for a couple of thousand dollars, and as Clinton would say, ‘We’re getting one more gun off the street’. Don’t even ask where they got these weapons in the first place. But the true answer would be as simple as paying the cocaine farmers not to grow coca, like we do with other crops in the states. But the American people do not want that! Put the motherfuckers in jail, I SAY!!!
My answer to the gun problem is to just let everyone carry a gun, anytime, anywhere (well, okay, excepting kids… gray area, people, gray area!). That way, nobody’d ever start shit 'cuz they’d know that everyone else can deliver that shit right back.
Believe me, I am all for American gun rights. I DO have a problem with prepubescent idiots weilding AK-47s, or any other lethal equipment. How ironic given our distaste for school violence! Please go re-read the OP.
I like what my Governor, Jesse, ‘I can make cash doing this public service thing!!’, Ventura, proposed.
He thought it wise, after the school shooting in Columbine and Florida, that we arm the teachers. There’s some forward thinking. Mrs. Neely teaching English Lit while packing a Glock.
Tuesday before lunch:
“This is a stick-up Mrs. Neely!”. :: Teacher flips desk and ducks :: “Oh yah! Kids! Get down!” :: BLAM! BLAM! RAT-A-TAT! Petwing, Dow-whee!! PTCHEWW! PTCHEWW! ::
IIRC, a fully-auto AK has a production cost of about $28 (the Klinton Administration once claimed it was “pennies”, which while a lie is not terribly far from $28) and sells in the Third World for from $100 to $500, depending on where and when you buy it. IIRC also, the production cost of the bullets (7.62x39 steel cased) are about 1.7 cents/round.
Here in KC, you can still buy MAK-90’s (non-folding stock non-bayonett lugged AK-47’s) at gun shows for about $400 NIB.
Just out of curiosity, Origato - your use of the words “American gun rights” implies to me that you might not be a US citizen, or is that assuming way too much? No flame or poke hidden here, just wondering.
Of course, buying the guns from these people wouldn’t help anyone except those who manufacture the gun and those who sell them to the US. They’d simply keep buying guns on the cheap and then sell them to the US for big bucks. Quite lucrative and they’d be laughing their asses off all the way to the bank.
You know, the funny thing is, back in the day (as recently as when I was in high school in the mid-to-late-80s), most high schools and many junior high schools (including in the cities) had . . . gun clubs. Kids would bring their rifles or handguns to school, and usually leave them in the care of a faculty member, or in a locker, or in their car, and meet after school to learn about guns, gun safety, and target practice. And, oddly, we didn’t seem to have many school shootings. (Of course, we don’t have a huge number now, despite some high-profile events.)
Now, of course, anyone who wants to shoot up a school can be pretty much guaranteed that nobody on the premises will have a firearm to stop them with. How convenient. Talk about the law of unintended consequences. Perhaps if the principal or some faculty member at Columbine had been carrying a concealed weapon, they could have stopped Harris and Klebold like the principal in Paducah did.
Yes. And btw I think it is bull that you have to go through so much red tape to buy a fully auto ak47 or M16. I fired one of my friends one time and it was a blast. If you aim at the water, the bullets splash the water up to almost 10 to 20 ft. Too fun. Besides what gave the govt the right to take away one of my rights of owning a automatic weapon. BTW put me down for two ak47 at a couple hundred a piece. That should give some of those foriegn kids lunch money for a while.
Don’t let’s be condescending. Your OP sounded to me like you were just pissed that you couldn’t afford the kind of gun that others could. That, to me, is not a “gun problem”.
It’s a bit strange that you juxtapose AK-47 ownership with school violence. An AK isn’t exactly concealable or easy to smuggle into school.
Incidentally, school violence is DOWN compared to a few decades ago, which is probably why shootings and the like today get so much media coverage and public outcry: violence is rarer than ever.
I remember this news story from several years ago:
A car, traveling across a long, crowded bridge, suddenly begins drifting out of it’s lane and crashes into the side of the bridge. When the police arrive the find a dead female in the driver’s seat. No cause for the accident or the death is apparent. The body is sent to the coroner who finds a bullet hole behind the woman’s left ear. Witnesses reported hearing no gunshot and seeing no assailant. After much detective work the bullet is traced to a particular rifle owned by a local man. Turns out he and his buddy had been out on the lake that day shooting at cans floating in the water. One bullet had ricocheted off the water, traveled over a mile, entered the woman’s car through the open rear passenger window while she drove across the bridge, and entered her skull, killing her.
Fact: A bullet hitting water at an angle is like a bullet hitting steel. It WILL ricochet. It WILL travel a great distance. It CAN kill.
Moral 1: Don’t shoot at water, ever. Moral 2: Never shoot at ANYTHING if you are not 100% sure where a miss will travel. Moral 3: If you can’t think that far ahead, don’t shoot PERIOD.
seriously, it’s not a high-quality piece of weaponry. (Not those I’ve handled, anyway - I 've never fired one).
Stamped steel with plywood grips, a mechanism that “fits where it touches” - it’s simply not confidence-inspiring. If I were to venture a guess, those you’ve seen, Anthracite, were probably a deluxe export version.
If you want Kalashnikov, go for the AK-74 (5.56 mm variant) - there’s a folding stock model. They’ve modified the flash suppressor to keep it steady during autofire, and you can of course carry more ammo 5.56 than 7.62 ammo.
As for myself, I’d take the Heckler & Koch MP-5 9mm submachine gun for the basic ground assault high school shoot-up. For the “moody loner in the belltower” variant I’d probably go with the Garand rifle (I believe it’s called the UM-1 in the US).
