I read everyone’s comments so far about the latest episode. No one mentioned one of the main reasons why Net Worth lost – they did not do their market research on the target customer for the new line of clothes. Yes, Angie screwed up her presentation big time (you just DO NOT make a big presentation with note cards in your hands!), but Magna clinched the win because they identified the #1 techie accessory for the target customer – the cell phone. Angie said it was the iPOD. BUZZZZZZZZZ wrong answer! This was particularly surprising because Alex won the Sony task because he was smart enough to go pump some street kids for ideas. He didn’t do that in this last task because he thought he had it all figured out. So, if anything, the two people most responsible for this last Net Worth loss were Alex and Angie. Chris did his assigned tasks, and his screwup didn’t really hurt NW’s chances much if at all. Angie got axed, but Alex is tainted enough to kill his chances for the BIG JOB. Tana’s the favorite right now, but always bear in mind that the show likes to throw curveballs at you!
Nah, Tana’s not the favorite. She’ll probably make it to the final four, but she won’t make it past the interviews. Her lack of a degree will do her in, same as Troy and Sandy. That’s what I hate about this season–you know right from episode one who eight of the firees are. As with Troy, they just don’t have the credentials to be taken seriously by the sort of people Trump would have them working with. No matter how good they are, they don’t have a shot in hell, and knowing that right off the bat sucks a lot of the fun out of it.
I never saw season 1, but to me Tana is so clearly the favorite no one else is even close. Especially since I think Trump will want to pick a woman this time and between Tana and Kendra it is no contest.
I thought **Scuba_Ben ** and I kinda did mention that, didn’t we? Sort of? 
Is there anything in the rules which states that you can’t bring supporting documentation to the boardroom? Seems to me that, had Angie brought in that sheet of paper where it was noted that she had a gajillion resposibilities to Alex’s one (something about a beltbuckle, IIRC), it would have made a difference. Might not have saved her, because her presentation did really suck (and I say that as someone who has choked during public speaking), but it might have raised a few more questions about what, exactly, Alex was doing.
On a personal note, my husband was quite sad to see Angie go. He mentioned it a few times, including once this morning. I was starting to get a little :dubious:
“Do her in” how? If Trump wasn’t willing to hire someone without a degree, he shouldn’t have structured this season’s groups like he did. I guess he could be all talk, but I’m hoping he’ll go with the most competent person, degreed or not.
Tana gets more confident every week, and we’ve seen her show a lot of poise (malaprops to Tana!).
I think if she makes it to the final two, she’ll be able to sell herself to Trump over whoever (whomever?) her competition might be.
Auntie Pam, “do her in” by getting her the cobra. “Tana, you’ve been great, and you clearly have a bright future ahead, but you just don’t have the education necessary to be taken seriously by colleagues on this level. I’m sorry, but you’re fired.” Hell, they could dub in that portion of Troy’s firing speech and just overdub her name. Wouldn’t be the worst dub they’ve done on this show. I agree that it’s shitacular of Trumpy to let non-degreed people on the show when they haven’t a snowball’s chance in hell of getting the job, but Trump’s made it fairly clear with both Troy and Sandy that not having a degree just isn’t going to cut it in his corporation. Tana will be leaving in the cab, not the Crossfire. I honestly don’t understand why non-degreed applicants even waste their time.
The final four will be the three booksmarts and Tana, and the final two will be Kendra and probably Alexander the Douche. I love me some Bren, but the short, chubby, bowtie-wearing fellow from Tennessee just isn’t going to be a good fit for the Trump organization, no matter how good he is. I would say that AtD has a complete lock on final two status, except for Trumpy calling him a loser this week. Of course, he seems to blame said loserdom strictly on his teammates, rather than on Alex’s inherent suckitude, so that’s probably not nearly the factor that it would initially seem.
My prediction for the big thing that happens after the boardroom is that the firee calls his/her teammates out on this fake-ass “yeah, I through you under the bus and then got them to back up and run over you again, but gimme a hug, sweetie” horseshit that happens in front of the elevators. The bus-throwers will stretch out their arms, and the bus-throwee will tell them to fuck off. That’s it. I mean, these “shocking” scenes are always much ado about nothing.
I disagree. “Looks” more commonly refers to physical beauty than overall appearance, and Trump would never have said that about a man. If he meant to say she was diminutive and kind-faced, he would have said “her look.”
Not to nitpick but “don’t let his/her/their looks fool you” is an expression. I’m pretty sure I’ve heard it used about things like dainty looking vacuum cleaners or compact cars. It just means that thing or person is tougher than you’d think from looking.
Well, I’ve heard the expression of course, but I’m just not willing to ascribe such an innocent motive to Trump. The minute he mentions “her looks,” referring to any objectively attractive female, I’m pretty sure his brain is going to places his HR department would rather it didn’t.
Your guess about his motivation could be right, but I’m just not willing to ascribe such a literary cleverness to Trump. He might, if he squints and grunts real hard for several minutes, come up with an ordinary metaphor that carries multiple implications, one of which is an indentifying rhetorical nuance — but I don’t think he could produce it on the fly. Especially not when the wind is blowing his hair.
I’m chatting with a fellow reality slut right now, and something occurs to me:
Some people think Carolyn really hates women. I think the way she went after Alex proves that what she hates is people who screw up, or slack, or pass responsibility, or whatever – regardless of gender. She really went for the jugular with him – and I was “woo-hooing” as she did, because I thought her questions were great. Alex is not necessarily the answer to Trump’s dreams, and he didn’t deserve a Teflon-coated pass through the Boardroom on this.
I completely agree. Carolyn doesn’t hate women at all–I don’t really recall her ever giving Amy or Jenn M. or really even Sandy any shit. (I guess technically, she sort of gave Amy shit during the “tone down the sex” lecture, but that was the group overall, not Amy specifically.) What Carolyn hates is lazy, incompetent boobs. And let’s face it, a great many of the women on this show have been lazy, incompetent boobs. Thus it stands to reason that Carolyn has absolutely torn them new ones. Carolyn is not the type to suffer bullshit gladly (though that begs the question of why she’s working for Trump), and I love that about her.
What I really love, though, is that her asshole-tearing is pretty much never personal. She never calls people losers, or messes, or disasters, never attacks their personality or personal habits. Even if Carolyn thinks on a personal basis that you’re the slimiest scumbag to ever disgrace the earth, she’ll keep her comments restricted to your actual job performance (or lack thereof, as the case may be.) It’s all business for her, which is a refreshing contrast to Trump, who’s just a nasty-tempered old tomcat batting the mice around for a while before sllloooooowwwwllyyy disemboweling them. First season, when he was sort of reining in the personal attacks, he had a cheeky sort of charm. Now he just comes across as a first-class asshole.
I aslo agree about Carolyn, although I think sometimes she also goes after the people who are obviously safe just to keep them honest. Hasn’t she gone after someone like she did Alex then turned around and recommend someone else be fired? Thought I’d seen that a couple of times.
And I believe the thing with Alex is relative. Like I said, I don’t think he was ever identified as a problem until he went to that team and I thought they described his Sony win as not even being close. Really all three of them did enough to deserve getting fired this week; he didn’t manage as well as he should have, Angie fell apart in front of the judges, and Chris did his one thing but then made a mistake doing it that kept him largely useless for the rest of the task. But while Alex was bad this time, the other two have been so consistently bad that he still looks good by comparison. He’d have had to stagger into the presentation drunk, whip it out and start peeing on the judges to catch up to how incompetent those other two have been.
It’s weird with that team. Every week you could justify firing most all of them.
Can someone translate this to English for me???
Trump fired Angie because of her hair.
He cannot allow the survival of anyone with more risible hair than his.
I don’t see anything wrong with Trump calling those people losers and whatnot. They are losers. They’re careless, petty, childish, stupid, and lots of other characteristics of losers. Plus, they lose all the time.
I don’t know how to do spoiler boxes, and I’m not even sure if things happening in Real Life and reported on network evening news need to be boxed anyway.
But…I caught the tail end of a news report about one of the Apprentice candidates being arrested, but no details. If anyone did catch the details, could you report them? or point me at a full account?
Chris was being loud and belligerent. Weird.
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