Let me clarify what I meant. I don’t believe you can divide two classes of people down the line that you have, which is “who has a college degree” and “who doesn’t”. Obviously the people with the college degree, overall, will perform better than the average person without one, as they’ve already expressed and invested their motivation into an avenue they deemed worthy.
However, the people without the college degrees can reasonably be divided into two groups, the ones with motivation and people without. The ones without motivation are the “losers”, the ones who are going to end up with a dead-end job and really don’t have any aspirations for their life. Then there are the ones without the college degree, but have motivation, and who can be successful despite their education (or lack thereof).
It’s not as simple of a comparison as you’ve made it out to be.
I am not making a simple comparison. I said in my original post that this was generally true, but not specificaly true. The false dichotomy in the show is that a college education has no value. Most of us understand that that is absolutley not true. These high school grads are the exception, with their three times net worth and all that.
I am in no way arguing that a college degree is a necessity to being succeful. Of course not There are plenty of exceptions to that “rule”. What annoyed me about the speech was that I have no doubt that a lot of those crew workers were high school kids, many of whom have parent’s, teachers, counselors trying to get them to prepare themselves for college. And then this bozo (successful and hard-wroking bozo) comes in and basically scoffs at the idea of college. I thought it was disgusting.
Well, it seems we agree except for our perception of the incident in question. What I perceived was that he was saying a college education wasn’t necessary, though I certainly didn’t see him explicitly discouraging one. Again, what I saw was that he was saying a college degree is from from a necessity in order to be successful.
And in that sense, he might have done some of the BK crew a favor. The ones who can go to college probably will, and the ones who can’t, for whatever reason, won’t think they’re doomed to failure.
Truthfully, I don’t think his speech will affect anything but the staff’s performance for that specific day, if that. Again, it plays back into what I stated earlier about their being two types of people, those with motivation and those without. His speech surely won’t alter that in either direction.
Though assuming I’m incorrect and he somehow swayed someone from going to college, I firmly believe that individual would invest their motivation into something else that could be equally successful.
Actually, I suspect that a lot of the motivation for the college vs. no college thing is an attempt to have another character like Troy. If a person with no college degree manages to achieve a certain level of success, it’s usually because they have great skills and talents. They’re usually very hard working. They can have great intuition about what customers want. Troy had tremendous people skills. Sandy was obviously extremely good at the bridal business. Whatever it is that got them the success also makes it likely that they’ll make for some good TV.
But I doubt Trump will choose one of the high-schoolers. He might have great respect for someone’s achievements in spite of their lack of education, and he might have little respect for someone in spite of their their fancy degrees, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t think that a good education is critical. He’s sending Troy to college, after all. But one thing that the last two seasons have aptly demonstrated is that all the top-notch degrees in the world don’t guarantee that someone won’t be a top-notch moron when faced with real-world tasks.
Also, remember that the “street smarts” team might not have their bachelor’s degrees, but that doesn’t mean that they have no college education. We saw two women were discussing how long they had been in college. The value of the education doesn’t necessarily diminish because the degree wasn’t achieved.
The degree is very important because it indicates that the bearer has completed the entire academic program. Speaking from my own experience (Industrial Management at Carnegie Mellon), the lower and middle level courses like finance, calculus, decision theory, statistics, marketing, accounting, and operations were very instructive, but it wasn’t until we took that background and applied it in upper-level courses that we earned the right to claim a Carnegie Mellon degree. But if I had had to leave school before taking those upper-level courses, I’d still be worlds ahead of someone who hadn’t had any college education at all.
I have to hunt you down and beat you senseless now. Along with my inability to yet articulate my thoughts on Erin (she was wearing freaking Muppet roadkill, people!), I can’t even begin to think of them saying that word repeatedly without my heart wanting to burst out my chest just so it can rip my arm off and shove it down my throat before bludgeoning me to death with a hammer. You think I’m overstating this.
I may have to highly elevate Verna highly in the rankings if she continues to roll her eyes at that inanity.
Apparently not. Trump offered, but Troy hasn’t taken him up on it, according to both men. Troy and Trump mentioned the offer on television recently, but Troy apparently feels he doesn’t need the degree and is instead striking while the iron is hot…