The argument that Trump will do whatever he wants and no one can stop him is really fucking boring

I could do that, if I wanted to shit on the people taking Trump to court and winning.

A little honesty about what is actually happening is the same as shitting on people to you.

Did I miss it or did Smapti actually address the fucking new fact that four SCotUS justices effectively said that they would have ignored one of the enumerated powers in the CotUS, that belongs solely to the Congress, and give that power to the executive?

It doesn’t matter if four Supreme Court justices said that Trump is YHVH himself made flesh. Five is a bigger number than four.

“A little honesty” would be acknowledging the manifest proof that the Supreme Court is NOT a rubber stamp for Trump, the justices he appointed WON’T side with him in lockstep no matter what, and that his admin HAS and WILL CONTINUE TO comply with its orders.

You’re so focused on the perfect being the enemy of the good that they could order Trump tarred and feathered by a 9-0 decision and you’d bitch that they didn’t also horsewhip him.

If anything so unlikely (and silly) ever happens I will give my own response…your freaky imagination notwithstanding.

And you would have no problem with four Justices of the Supreme Court doing so, as long as, this time, they were outvoted? The court would be one vote away from giving Trump all he wanted, and you just can’t see the problem.

We can’t change who’s on the Supreme Court. We can bring cases to them and hopefully persuade enough of them to do the right thing.

Which today we did. And still you whine.

Something about we have to win them all; the America-hating fuckstick only has to win some.

Well, if you pretend those are the same thing as what you claimed, sure.

As opposed to your “Sure, we lost, but we managed to sack the QB a couple of times” approach?

Just trying to drag it back from where you keep taking it. Which is here:

The country still takes damage with each of these victories, and you want us to ignore that so that…you can feel smug?

We can do stuff. We can fight back in various ways. But this “We won a battle therefore we’ll win the war” attitude of yours is delusional.

Case in point:

“It doesn’t matter that 4/9 of the Supreme Court openly indicated that they no longer care about the explicit text of the US Constitution” is a helluva thing to say. If you refuse to acknowledge the import of this just because this time they didn’t get a fifth member on their side, you are pretty much proving everything everyone has said about you in this thread correct.

Ok, I hope this isn’t too off topic, but what really infuriates me is people that say we should look at the good things Trump has done. uhhhh. Name one.

It’s like forgiving someone that went on a rape, pillage and destroy rampage because “Hey, they did, at least, mow their yard”.

A relative of mine similarly said " every new president brings bad and good things. Some things you’re going to like, some not". Riiiiiight. Which ones am I supposed to like? What actual fecking good is this monster going to bring?

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar hit a skyhook to win the Lakers’ first game of the 1979-80 season, when Magic Johnson had just joined the team. Magic had a good game, 26 points, 4 assists and 8 rebounds. He was justly happy, but got a little carried away in his celebration. Kareem said

“Magic was so fired up, and I was like, Jesus, we can’t be at this emotional pitch for the whole season, or we won’t make it to Thanksgiving,” KAJ said.

Magic recalled later:

“I’m hugging, grabbing his neck, and choking it,” he said. “I’m going crazy, and he gets me in the locker room and says, ‘You know what, Earvin? Don’t ever do that again. We got 81 more games.’”

I trust that the analogy is obvious.

As they’ve said in the US military, BOHICA.

It’s so much worse than that though. Trump and musk have already done so many things that were called scaremongering previously.

Project 2025 was supposedly just trump derangement syndrome, now we’re living it.

What’s happening in Ukraine and Gaza is pretty much the worst case scenario…there are no adults in the room, or no adults with backbones.

And pretty much all of Musk’s job is extra-legal. Anything he gets done at all is an example of the system failing.

So high fiving over one minor victory while the rest of the team has facial burns from having the basketball dunked in their face so many times is beyond ridiculous.

I don’t care if four Justices agreed with Trump, just so long as only four Justices are ever going to agree with Trump.

I’m worried that even if that does come to pass, he’ll do what FDR did and try to expand SCOTUS so he can pack it. And with this Congress I wouldn’t count on the same result that FDR got.

This infuriates me, too…but I have to admit, I heard a credible report on an NPR investigative program that the threat of tariffs really did help induce some Mexican officials to crack down (via police raids) on some fentanyl labs there. Of course, this will be hard to sustain – and, as long as American consumers crave the drug, the producers will find a way – but I had to be frank with myself and say “yes, Trump and his cronies have done 999 awful, idiotic, deeply harmful things…but facts are facts, and this may be a tiny positive outcome – assuming, of course, he never actually implements tariffs.”

The reporters were actually on the scene in Culiacan, Mexico, watching the raid commence (and the fentanyl maker panicking) – the same lab where they had interviewed the same folks, calmly making their product, some weeks before. So, pretty legit.

To be sure, fentanyl smuggling had already declined by fall 2024. And, the new Mexican President, Scheinbaum, was already planning to get tougher with drug makers, so we’ll never know how much the tariff threat was a factor. But sober, knowledgeable people in the NPR piece opined that it was.

I can’t believe I’m posting this…anyone here knows from my posts how I feel about Trump…but “even a stopped clock…” and all that.

(A cynic might note that yesterday NPR also admitted on air that it’s fighting for its life – well, for that 6% of expenses from federal funding…)

Right. Firstly it’s not that easy to win the war on drugs.

But secondly, the tariffs would have caused a lot more pain overall, hence why he’s (been forced to) roll them back.

I can give Trump credit where it’s due. Fast-tracking vaccine funding in his last term was good.

But I suggest we not look for positive aspects of an overall negative policy. Otherwise when the economy crashes and businesses shutter we would be crediting him with bringing down CO2 emissions.

Absolutely — I agree on all points.