The Beach Boys and Public Image Ltd.

I caught a year-old rebroadcast of Later… with Jools Holland. A good show, with Muse, The XX, and Natalie Duncan.

And The Beach Boys standing on stage literally next to Public Image, Ltd. both playing together on the opening song.

What sourcery is this?

First, I’m pretty sure that both Brian Wilson and John Lydon are dead and this has them spinning in their graves.

Is there anyone in 1976 who would have predicted this? Or even a world in which this were possible?

The future is a different country.

It’s not a stage it’s a studio setting. Each of that weeks guests does a turn. They may all join in with the simple opening riff, or not.

But you know that if you’ve seen Later before.

If you think that’s weird, then you’ve never seen Conway Twitty with the Residents.

I think in 1976 one might say, “Who’s PIL?”

I would never (I don’t think) have pretended to be able to predict what John Lydon might or might not do in the future.

Right now, I would not be blown over backwards if next year he, as unironically as anyone can tell, conducts a Gregorian monk choir. Or if he releases an album of sounds during sex. Or if he fronts another band while telling every interviewer that he, and the public at large, are tossers and idiots.

Well put. He’s like the British Neil Young. Or, he’s what Elvis Costello tries a little too hard to be, without quite succeeding.

James Watt.

Isn’t he on second?

For the children in the audience; let me take you back to the long ago year of 1983.

Part of what I meant by 1976 was that the Beach Boys were seen as all too cozy with Republican politicians generally. That James Watt could a few years later consider them a bad element should have been a warning sign that the right-wing had already become dangerously insane, even though most of the rest of the Republican hierarchy defended them.

Today we can’t imagine any mainstream politician bad-mouthing rock music per se, or the Beach Boys specifically, as evil forces in society. You kiddies can’t imagine how bizarrely ancient 40 years ago was. (You too, Little Nemo, you, you youngster you. :slight_smile: )

Is that a joke? Neither of them are dead.

That’s because it’s been at least 20 years since anyone seriously thought rock music was a threat to Western Civilization. Hip-Hop took that title sometime in the 1990s and held on to it for about a decade until popular music became too fragmented for any particular genre to blamed as this nation’s #1 Corrupter of Youth.

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe he’s thinking of Sid Vicious and Dennis Wilson.

Yes, it’s a joke.

Have you seen Brian Wilson lately? He looks dead most of the time. When interviewed by Holland he stared straight ahead, blank-faced, instead of looking at him. Lydon looked older than Keith Richards.

Besides, they both by rights should be dead by now.

Sorry dude but this is pretty strange thread.

Ironically, it’s now pirates who are trying to steal rock music who are a threat to Western Civilization. Rock music has become part of the establishment that wants law and order to protect it from the outlaws.