The Big Bang Theory, Season 12, Episode 22 (May 9, 2019) -- "The Maternal Conclusion"

Wrong. It was Dr. Pulaski who was supposed to fall down a turbolift chute.

Funny or not, I agreed with the Leonard and Raj stories, and I loved the Stuart story. And Shamy could sit and read the phone book,and I’d love that.

This episode sucked. The mother was terrible to him forever, including this entire episode. Leonard was miserable and then thirty seconds before the episode ends he suddenly says, “I forgive you” the mother is still awful and then they hug.

Unearned and stupid.

The B plot and C plots were good.

Here’s the CBS press release about the final episode:

https://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/shows/the-big-bang-theory/releases/view?id=52641

Bernadette trying to cop a feel?

https://www.cbspressexpress.com/images/releases/docimages/8359/154779-972468/848a688ada2fb31f0309a75821bbadc8.jpg

The horrible character Anu/so-called actress-comedian playing her brought a lot of stink to the episode, but thankfully it was all on Raj’s computer screen. The character is horrible. The person portraying her fies not do so well. Untalented & unfunny.

Re the finale: I’m hoping the main cast get in the newly-repaired elevator, the doors close, the elevator moves then gets stuck between floors. The last line is from Sheldon, quoting some obscure factoid about elevators.

AIUI, he would have had to place Cinnamon in quarantine for six months upon her arrival in Old Blighty (N.B. Last minute research suggests that the quarantine can be avoided, with the caveat that it’s recommended that the dog’s owner start preparing to meet the requirements for the exemption four months prior to travel).

I actually thought that was the whole point: Leonard finally realized that his mother is never going to change, and with that realization he became able to accept her for who she is and forgive her for not being able to be the mother he needed (and forgive himself for needing more than she could provide). Beverly surprised herself by feeling relieved when Leonard “let her off the hook,” leading to the hug – even though she’s still the same person.

I thought it was both realistic and kind of nice closure for that relationship. It would have been nice to have time to see Leonard and Beverly getting along better now that he knows to stop expecting/hoping for more than she can give, but I’ll take this.

This is also my take but I would have much rather Leonard come to the conclusion that he didn’t need such a raging bitch purposely making him feel like crap all the time, do the real healthy thing and cut her off. He gets all the emasculation he needs from his wife.

On reflection I think it WOULD have been a good idea to at some point have had an exploration of how Beverly Hofstadter approached child-rearing with Leonard’s two siblings. Was it purely transactional, as it appears to have been in Leonard’s case? Did one get “helicopter” parenting, while the other (perhaps a control) received some baseline of parental interaction extrapolated from the most mainstream parenting books from the 70’s?

ISTM that Beverly Hofstadter treated her entire set of offspring as her research project, on which she hoped to write a ground-breaking treatise on cradle-to-commencement parenting and child-rearing.

I’d like to think of Leonard and Penny expatriating to Europe, where Leonard (now working at CERN) becomes a naturalized citizen, and sues on privacy grounds to block Beverly from publishing her findings. :stuck_out_tongue:

Never read their press releases before - why in the world would they not refer to Howard and Raj by their first names in the cast listing? (Especially since Bernadette now shares Howard’s last name.) Also, I thought I’d heard that Stuart was considered one of the principal cast now, was I mistaken?

It appears that there’s a rigid hierarchy even among the regular cast, and this applies both to how they are listed in the credits and how they are paid. Johnny Galecki, Jim Parsons, Kaley Cuoco, Simon Helberg, and Kunal Nayyar all appeared in the first episode, and they supposedly all are paid the same and get equal credits. Mayim Bialik and Melissa Rauch didn’t appear until the third season and didn’t become regulars until the fourth season, and they supposedly are paid somewhat less and get somewhat less credits. Kevin Sussman was a regular in the sixth season and has been one in all the seasons from the eighth one, and he supposedly is paid even less and he gets even less credits.

Heh. Now I’m picturing a negotiation session where Jim Parsons insists on being paid more, and the producers (a) think he’s worth it, but (b) aren’t willing to pay anybody else another cent, and, oh, what’s to be done, since the other castmembers have an agreement that they’ll get the same pay? All those millions at stake!

“Hey,” says a guy, “I guess we can just give Jim the difference we’re willing to pay, but say it’s for reading the occasional line on, oh, let’s call it ‘Young Sheldon’.”

That would explain a lot…

To me it felt like the opposite of closure because it was so sudden and unearned.

I happened to catch a rerun of “The Opening Night Excitation” recently (the episode where the guys go see “The Force Awakens,” and Sheldon and Amy have coitus for the first time). I noticed that they did the same thing in the “Star Wars”-like opening crawl: the guys were referred to as “Leonard, Sheldon, Wolowitz and Koothrappali.” For whatever reason, that seems to be the standard usage.

Not earned by Beverly, but earned by Leonard. He was at the breaking point and had an epiphany, that this is how to set himself free. Beverly doesn’t matter, so he is able to forgive her as he would a stranger who bumped into him.

Beverly seems to be a Freudian psychiatrist, or some derivative thereof. What you’re describing is more behaviorist.

I finally got to see this episode last night. There were loose ends left in this show, but this was like letting Littlefinger live in GOT.