Chrissy Snow? Man… you’re dating yourself.
There’s an alternate juror getting his 15 minutes of fame.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43651613/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
I heard him last night on CNN and was very impressed with how thoughtful he is.
Looks like the smear campaign against the family was successful, since this guy mentioned it as part of his thought process.
You know … it was apparent that a ton of information from the early depositions was being excluded from the trial. Some observers have been putting two and two together. This June 22nd *Miami Herald *article has given me pause:
The author of the article, victim advocate Wendy Murphy, called the acquital nearly a month ago.
I think a lot of cops did some shoddy police work, by design, to create an out for George’s daughter.
All the lying and ridiculous defense theories were simply to confuse. Combined they couldn’t miss.
Cynical, I know, but that’s what I think.
Why does it have to be a conspiracy? Why couldn’t any shoddy police work just be because sometimes, police do shoddy work?
Also, she was dating a policeman at some point, wasn’t she?
EDIT: here it is – from the “Death of Caylee Anthony” wikipedia page:
Why do you keep lying about people misquoting you when they are directly and exactly quoting you word for word?
Good post. I agree, I am astounded at the reaction to this, the notion that the lack of DNA evidence, or some other CSI smoking gun, tied the jury’s hands. “How do we even know she was murdered?” Other than the fact that she was dumped in a swamp, duct tape affixed to her head. Maybe it was a heart attack.
People were convicted of murder for a long, long time before anyone knew there was such a thing as DNA, before there were the kinds of techniques that could conclusively determine causes of death. That did not, by itself, mean a conviction was not possible. People have been convicted of murder where the body was never found, for Pete’s sake. But in this case, well, now, maybe there’s a perfectly good explanation for how Caylee ended up in that swamp. Yes sir.
The standard is not “beyond all doubt.” She is guilty at the point where it is no longer reasonable to presume innocence. This case crossed that line LONG ago. Blameless people don’t wait 31 days to go to the cops and lie about “kidnappers.” I would have had zero problem voting guilty. There is no other plausible (note–I did not say POSSIBLE) explanation than she killed her daughter.
If it was ever proved that Casey was indeed renting Caylee out to pedophiles for kiddie porn shoots, and that’s what really led to her death, I honestly believe that Casey would be murdered in prison (obviously assuming she was found guilty of such a horrific action) within days of being locked up.
I imagine that many would feel that pimping out your 3 year-old daughter to child pornographers is worse than actually killing them outright.
Also, ABC News has letters from Casey, written from jail, saying she wants to get pregnant again soon, or maybe just adopt…
George was a cop in rural Ohio twenty years ago. He has no Orlando-area police connections. What, the police started to investigate, learned dad had deputied in long-ago East Bumflick, Ohio, and immediately slacked off?
The author of that article is cherry-picking and misstating facts in order to make her thesis.
How is this evidence that Caylee wasn’t already dead? What’s the difference between getting rid of Caylee in order to party and getting rid of Caylee in order to rent movies with a new boyfriend? Keep in mind this was a new boyfriend who didn’t think the apartment he shared with a group of pot-smoking buddies from college was an appropriate place for Caylee to be at night.
Right, it’s ludicrous to believe that a child’s outfit could be changed within the course of a day. :rolleyes:
The witness could not see who the driver was, so the witness can not say that the driver was definitely not Casey (and then of course that same witness saw Casey at the wheel backing the car into the garage the very next day). And why is it so hard to believe that just because some one was driving one car at 5:00 pm, they couldn’t be driving another at 10 or 2 or 8 on the same day?
Casey’s brother testified this because it was what Casey told him. It was part of the big fictional Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapping story.
No, Casey had her car prior to this, per the witness who saw her backing into her garage on the 18th. If a car is seen backing into a garage three times in four days, and if the driver is identified on one of those times, why assume that there must have been different drivers during the other times? This is a stretch.
To which I LOL. And then I LOL some more. Her argument is that Casey couldn’t have done something so stupid because nobody could be that stupid? LOL. People are stupid sometimes. Also, Casey didn’t so much as talk about the “victim’s rotting flesh” as try to explain away the stench.
I don’t know what photographs she is talking about here. There was a hubbub about Cindy’s disposition about a photograph of a fully-clothed Caylee crying and stretching her arms up to the photographer, but this picture is most certainly not kiddie porn, as I think the author is trying to insinuate. There were also pictures of Caylee with bruises on her face that were not entered into evidence because, you know, little kids do get lots of bruises.
This incident only happened once, not multiple times, as the author is trying to imply with her “May and June”, and it did not quite happen the way the author recounts. Instead, Ricardo Morales said that once he woke up and Caylee was gone. Casey told him that she had a phone call from Cindy and drove Caylee home–home, not to an undisclosed location.
Before we get to the why let’s get to the when. When was Caylee at an “unknown location” prior to June of 2008?
I would like to know the author’s definitions of popular and common. I find it hard to believe that the use is “popular” when the application is so unpredictable, and when safer, easier drugs are widely available. I just tried Googling to get some information about the use of chloroform for sexual abuse, but aside from the sad story of Karla Holmolka’s sister (who was only supposed to be sedated for the duration of the rape, but ended up dying because duh, chloroform is unreliable), I only found one story about a Swiss man who overcame his victims with a “chloroform-like” substance.
Yes, I’m sure it is.
No, this is not apparent at all. There is no proof of this.
This is a real woman who is a different Zenaida Gonzales from the one who filled out the application at Sawgrass, and she did file a police report for a stolen laptop. And is the author really trying to raise the ghost of Zanny the Nanny and implicate this woman in a kiddie porn ring? Really? How is this not slander?
Scratch this. Never happened, at least not with chloroform. Bernardo and Holmolka used a combination of Halcion and alcohol to sedate her sister.
Wendy Murphy has her facts wrong. Casey was driving Tony Lazarro’s Jeep at the end of June through the first week in July, while Tony was in New York. At the time of Caylee’s disappearance, Casey and Casey alone had access to the Sunfire.
sugaree addressed most of the problems with Murphy’s piece, but there are other gems in there:
Yes, the car was owned and registered under George and Cindy Anthony, but it was Casey’s car. It has not been demonstrated that anyone other than Casey was driving it at the time.
Nice use of the passive voice there. The truth is that Casey abandonded the car in that parking lot, and called Tony to come and pick her up. Tony offered to help her with her car, but she waved him off, telling him her father would take care of it. Do you think maybe she didn’t want him going near it?
It’s worth it to go back and look at the videos from George and Cindy’s visits to Casey in prison. And the letters are interesting too.
IMHO - Casey was still lying and manipulating, and probably still is.
Juror speaks about the guilty verdict:
Enh, it makes her an accessory,by deliberately withholding information that might have saved the kid, had she actually been kidnapped or whatever she was claiming at first. Or it seems like it should make her an accessory.
No you don’t, you stupid cow. And you certainly don’t need motive or method for aggravated manslaughter/child abuse.
I’m trying to figure out why anyone thinks the Anthonys were dysfunctional before Caylee died. Because they didn’t advertise that Casey was pregnant? Hell, that’s a time-honored tradition in the US. Happened with a cousin of mine. She moved out of state ‘for a job’, came back three years later married and with a 2.5yr old kid. No one knew but the mother and father.
Sex abuse? I don’t buy it. If Casey was abused since she was 8, she was clearly so upset about it that she…did nothing. Didn’t move out, had no problem leaving her daughter with her diddling dad? No way. I’ve known two women that told me they had been abused by the dad, and both couldn’t move out of the house fast enough. And there is NO WAY either of them would leave their daughters with the dad alone.
After watching that video of the juror, I stand by my stance: This was a jury of 12 retards that couldn’t think their way out of a wet paper bag. The defense threw a bunch of shit at the wall and the jury believed that some of it stuck. Disgraceful.
I really wish I hadn’t clicked on that link.
Seriously? She “couldn’t make out logically” how this could have happened because no one witnessed it?
I weep for the future.