The Bricker Challenge #4

Shayna, I’m a database administrator, and I stay the hell away from networks, which are the source of all that is evil :mad: and when a database crashes, it’s always the %@#$#@ network, and those network guys inevitably try to point fingers at me, and … (starts babbling incoherently and foaming at the mouth)

I just copied that answer from someone else.

After looking through the questions and answers again, I’m wondering if we needed to be more specific on “where” the verdi opera, Rigoletto takes place. The question specifically says “Where are we?”
Therefore, I’m hoping that we got 1/2 the question right by saying they were in the opera and I’m going to take a stab at the other 1/2 by saying “Italy”.

My fingers are crossed!

Arnold, thou blasphemer. While network crashes do account for a considerable percentage of outage time on my lovely and stable systems, I spend far more time helping application and database folks clean up the problems caused y their own squirrely use of shared system resource (how hard is it to free memory after your done, people!!). Don’t try to weasel out of blame by pointing at the network - - place the blame on teh developers where it belongs!!
( :smiley: Hi Pat)


The best lack all conviction
The worst are full of passionate intensity.
*

OK, I’m changing my answers to 26 and 29. See new answers in purple. (I’m only posting my changed answers to save on bandwith.)

<font color=“Red”>26. How many hosts are possible in a network that uses a subnet mask of 255.255.255.192?</font>
<strike>64</strike>
<font color=“Purple”>62</font>

<font color=“Red”>29. 8:16 AM, August 16th, 1945.</font>
<strike>Japan surrenders to the allies, end of World War II.</strike>
<font color=“Purple”>Typo! You probably meant August 6th.
“Little Boy” is the nick name given to the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima on August 6, 1945. After being released, it took about a minute for Little Boy to reach the point of explosion. Little Boy exploded at approximately 8:15 a.m. (Japan Standard Time) when it reached an altitude of 2,000 ft above the building that is today called the “A-Bomb Dome.”</font>

Arnold, my apologies for not remembering your profession correctly.

But… when we left our answer to the network question as 64, Bricker scored us at 49 1/2. Now there’s no way that that question could have a 1/2 right answer. It either is or it isn’t correct. That tells me that 64 is right and 62 is wrong.

But with further research, I cannot find a single page that supports an answer of 64, only 62. There’s this one, this one, this one and this one which all clearly say the answer is 62.

So if we change our answer back to 62, we’ll be down to 48 1/2 according to Bricker. I guess we could change the bridge question back to 5 clubs, but I contend that he is accepting both 5 clubs and 4 no trump as correct so I can’t forsee that doing any good.

Bricker, could you be [no offense intended]wrong about your network answer?


“How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world.” - Anne Frank

None taken. :slight_smile:

But I am certain that I am right about my network answer.

And at the risk of giving things away, I will assume that you have changed your answer from 62 to 64. It does not affect your score. In case my assumption was inaccurate, and you didn’t change your answer… well, that, too, does not affect your score. :slight_smile:

Oh, hell - this question has been thoroughly addressed, so I will discuss it. The “classic” answer is 64 - two high-order bits in the fourth octet are taken away from host numbering and given to network numbering. That leaves six bits for host numbering, or 64 possible hosts. But in the real world, w.x.y.0 is never used as a host, because that’s a network number, and w.x.y.255 isn’t used as a host, because that a broadcast address. So two of the possible 64 aren’t usable, and 62 is the real answer. I am accepting either 62 or 64 for full credit, however.

  • Rick

Thanks for the explanation, Rick. Guess it was the bridge bid answer that changed our score above afterall.

It’s this 1/2 credit one that’s sending chocolate and me over the edge! We have examined and re-examined every answer and cannot find one that could be only partially right while at the same time Arnold got completely right. Since our answers are now all pretty much the same except for the one I think that he only got partial credit for, it doesn’t seem possible that he got full credit and we got partial credit when everything else matches.

Maybe it’s the question about apples? We said the ones she liked were tart and he said they were golden delicious. Ok, let’s change our answer to #19 to read, the apples she prefers are Golden Delicious or one of its derivatives.

Does that change anything? LOL


“How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world.” - Anne Frank

Might I request a score update, Bricker.

My brain hurts nad I wish to be put out of my misery. Oh, and in case you were looking for more detail I agree that your aunt enjoys variations of golden delicious apples.


The best lack all conviction
The worst are full of passionate intensity.
*

No worries! I just didn’t want you to think I was some kind of authority on IP addresses.

S.Cal Dopers stick together!

Yes. And what amazed me is that you quoted the correct rule, but gave the wrong answer initially!

You SAID it! So what beats four spades? Four no-trump! :slight_smile: I am assuming that you’re not a bridge player…

No change.

You know what this reminds me of?

There’s a game which I’ve always called “Three Minute Mysteries,” but I’m sure it’s known by something more official. In it, one person poses a seemingly bizarre situation, and the other(s) try to figure out what’s going on, by dint of asking ONLY yes-or-no questions.

In one such puzzle, the situation presented is, “A man is afraid to go home… because there’s another man there waiting for him - a man with a mask.”

In trying to solve it, people get very frustrated; they’ll ask, “So, the man with the mask is at the first man’s home?” Of course, the answer is yes. Later they’ll ask, something like, “Is the man with the mask at the first man’s house?” The answer to this is ‘no!’

Inevitably, they’ll be convinced that the answers are screwed up – after all, they just asked the SAME question and got two different answers!

The answer is that the men are playing baseball; the first man is on third and the catcher is at home plate, wearing his mask. :slight_smile:

  • Rick

BTW, Shayna:

If you want your last 1/2 point I would look to question 30.


The best lack all conviction
The worst are full of passionate intensity.
*

Amen to that, brother. I’ve been comparing my answers and Shayna’s to see what could push me over the edge to 50, and now I’m hopelessly confused.

Arnold, I think you left something out of #9.

Then again, my brain has been reduced to the color and consistency of tapioca. I have begun humming songs from Finian’s rainbow while reconfiguring network routes in th evain hope that my aunt will send me an aple to commemorate the end of one war or the climax of another, but I suspect that she is off playing tennis with her bridge partner, who used to be the secratary for a congressman despite being unable to type and is an expert on political muckraking, being able to slander both sitting presidents and powerful chairmen wth amusing jingles, none of which helps if the task at hand involes the law of cosines or the states of Australia, of course, but which is hardly a tragedy of operatic proportions even if the opera is Rigoletto or teen angel though it might approach the absurdism of a Tom Stoppard play or a Billy Joel song, one of which requires the patience of the Buddha to sit through while the other leads to cutting of your ear, though a genius like Fermat might find an alternative like petting a cat or going to church; both of which are better than watching Roseanne play backgammon with Supremem Court Justices while the Navy pays ABBA to sing the Dr Doolittle song – wait, I;m probably worrying for nothing as I now recall my aunt saying she had been given a g-spot for passover and had learned teh joys of free parking on Sunday mornings while watching large men in tight pants compete in the snow for the Lombardi Trophy and grunt like Beavis (or is it Hank Hill?) even though it once resulted in the Secret Service once arresting her for violating the law of cosines and defiling a vice-president, a charge she escaped only because they failed to Mirandize her but which still led to her ongoing problem of binging on pomegrantes laced with 7 & 7 & dry ice.

New scores:

cher3: 12
Tinker Grey: 16 1/2
rackensack: 30 1/2
Ukulele Ike: 22
Flysyde: 19
Frankd6: 30 1/2
BurnMeUp: 17
Fretful Porpentine: 42
John Corrado: 44
Iolanthe: 46 (how’s Strephon these days?) Rilchiam: 21 1/2
Scarlet Pimpernel: 13
Shayna/Chocolate: 49 1/2
Peyote Coyote: 27 1/2
Spiritus Mundi: 48 1/2
RTFiurefly: 31 1/2
douglips: 2
Arnold Winkelreid: 49 1/2

  • Rick

Spiritus:
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Ohmigosh, that’s amazing.

You have captured the spirit of this thing perfectly!

Hats off!

  • Rick

Final try.
Changed answers are in bold for your convenience.

1.Wilbur Mills, Congressman from Arkansas, caught with stripper Fanny Foxe.
2.Buddha.
3. Rosencrantz & Guildenstern, according to Shakespeare’s Hamlet*
4.You’d be Sharon McLonergan, singing in the musical Finian’s Rainbow.**
5.Yes. From “Scenes From An Italian Restaurant” by Billy Joel. (Brenda and Eddie were the popular steadies and the King and the Queen of the Prom/ Riding around with the car down and the radio on…)*
6.Fermat.
7. Vincent Van Gogh; his brother, Theo, was his would-be agent (and I believe the only person who actually bought one of his paintings).*
8. Then I challenge you to a rematch of tennis, starting score, Love-Love.*
9. In accord with c. 1246, the National Conference of Catholic Bishops decrees that the holydays of obligation to be observed in the United States are the solemnity of Mary, the Mother of God; the solemnity of the Ascension; the solemnity of the Assumption; the solemnity of All Saints; the solemnity of the Immaculate Conception; the solemnity of Christmas. The solemnity of the Epiphany shall transferred to the first Sunday following January 1st; the solemnity of Corpus Christi shall be on the second Sunday following Pentecost. When the solemnities of Mary, Mother of God, the Assumption, and All Saints fall on a Saturday or a Monday they will not be observed as holy days of obligation.**
10. T.S. Eliot, cat, black and white.
11. The U.S. Navy.
12. The Vietnam War.
13. Playing Backgammon.
14. Sarah Chalke.
15. Sidney Biddle Barrows, the Mayflower Madam.
16. They’re all Friends! (Monica Gellar, Rachael Green, Chandler Bing, Phoebe Buffay, and Joey Tribbiani.)**
17. Hughes Rehnquist. (Supreme Court Chief Justices. And if you can get away with “Taney” as a first name, I can get away with “Hughes.”)
18. It was the name of his capsule.
19. She likes Golden Delicious apples, but not any other types of apples.**
20.Dr. Doolittle.
21. Woodrow Wilson Kept Us Out Of War, and Woodrow Wilson Is Too Proud To Fight. At least, he was until he won the election of 1916 in which these slogans were whereupon a year later we suddenly found ourselves involved in World War I….*
22. ABBA. Blech.*
23.Because the Angel of Death “passed over” the children of Israel in the final plague of Egypt.*
24. Because the legend is that George Washington threw a dollar across the Delaware. He chopped down a cherry tree when he was a kid, though. And no dollars existed back then, either.
25. While not necessarily the first guy to find it, he was the first to document the Grafenberg Spot", better known as the G-spot. Ask Tveblen why this is important.*
26. 62 or 64.
27. His high school ring.
28. Well, smelt is a small fish, so that’s okay; but spelt is a wheat used for livestock, I think you’ll end up fat as a cow… (No offense intended towards Imthecowgodmoo or tinycow for that stereotype.) **
29. Enola Gay drops an atomic bomb on Hiroshima.
30. New South Wales; another is Northern Territory. (provinces of Australia, mate)**
31. Andy Warhol.*
32. The National Palace in Mexico City.*
33.Famous for saying: “I can’t type. I can’t file. I can’t even answer the phone.”, Ms. Ray was a former Miss Virginia hired as a ‘secretary’ for Ohio Representative Wayne Hays, although given the mattress in Hays’ back office, it’s unlikely that Ms. Ray was ever hired for her typing skills…**
34. Wallace Stevens.
35. Nothing, according to the rules. Gaining all money paid for fines and Community Chest/Chance cards is just a house rule.*
36. The same animator: Mike Judge, as well as the same home town.*
37. A chant spun by Democrats in the Presidential election of 1884, in which they (successfully) supported the admitted bastard-siring Grover Cleveland.*
38. Lombardi Trophy.**
39. Four no-trump (assuming you’re not talking about doubles and re-doubles).*
40. Snow. Lots of words for snow.
41. The Secret Service, a branch of the Treasury Department.*
42. At the opera, watching Verdi’s Rigoletto.**
43. His confession was made without his legal counsel present, and Ernesto Miranda had no knowledge of his legal rights to counsel. After Miranda v. Arizona before the Supreme Court, the practice of informing someone of their rights became known as “Mirandizing” and the lack thereof was accepted as reason for overturning entry of evidence (yeah, I’m wrong on the specifics of what it means, but all my knowledge of the law comes from watching Law & Order).*
44. Quayle. (U.S. Vice Presidents)*
45. One that you send a card on Valentines Day. Or, mathematically, an angle less than 90 degrees.*
46. February 13th.
47. No, it has to do with calculus. Although understanding calculus may actually help in trying to figure out your car loan payments.*
48. Pomegranate.
49. You’d sublimate from a solid to a gas.
50. Mixing and serving them. They’re a type of drink.*


JMCJ

This is not a sig.

I do appreciate your help so much Mundi. But that one seems to me to be correct. See this map and you will see that it shows the Australian provinces to be:

Western Australia
Northern Territory
Queensland
New South Wales
Victoria
Tasmania
South Australia

And Arnold, you know I’m not trying to beat you per se. I’m just going nuts trying to figure out what he’s looking for. If chocolate says it’s ok with her, I’d let you take the prize even if we end up being the first to 50 pts. (which at this point doesn’t look very likely anyway :).)

And my brain hurts too! Waaaaaaah!!


“How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world.” - Anne Frank

OMG, Spiritus, that was awesome! Hilarious! Great job summarizing :smiley:

cher3: 12
Tinker Grey: 16 1/2
rackensack: 30 1/2
Ukulele Ike: 22
Flysyde: 19
Frankd6: 30 1/2
BurnMeUp: 17
Fretful Porpentine: 42
Iolanthe: 46 (how’s Strephon these days?) Rilchiam: 21 1/2
Scarlet Pimpernel: 13
Shayna/Chocolate: 49 1/2
Peyote Coyote: 27 1/2
Spiritus Mundi: 48 1/2
RTFiurefly: 31 1/2
douglips: 2
Arnold Winkelreid: 49 1/2
John Corrado: 49

  • Rick

By the way, Jay Chase, Warren Marshall, and Taney Burger were hanging out at the malt shop, when along came Ellsworth Rutledge. He was welcomed into the group with open arms. But when Thomas Blackmun came by, they snubbed him, shot spitballs at the back of his head, and “accidently” tripped him when he tried to leave.

Just thought you might like to know that.

  • RM

Spiritus, you’re a genius! Take that sentence, slap the appropriate question numbers on it to indicate what you’re referring to, and I believe you’ll get the prize!