It is very unlikely Canada will buy Super Hornet aircraft secondhand; for one thing, it would rob the government of the opportunity to award the contracts to build the planes, and you don’t just throw away a political chip that huge.
For another, just when do you think you’re going to be able to buy them? The U.S. Navy still operates both Hornet and Super Hornet; they have not yet converted all Hornet squadrons over. They’re not going to dump planes they just bought, and it’s anyone’s guess as to when the F-35 will be ready.
Thirdly, it’s likely a Canadian version would be modified slightly to meet Canadian needs, as was the case with the F-18 becoming the CF-18 (r CF-188 as it’s technically styled.)
The Canadian Govt, has a long history of buying second hand, and we really should concider it if the frames are low milage. Thats how we got the voodoo, after the arrow was canceled. Trudeau only bought the original bugs, as part of them was supposed to be built or maintained in Quebec, and was really big on the fact that it operated the sparrow missile, instead of needing a nuclear tipped warhead,( I remember him saying that in a tv interview).
Concidering the federal budget today, I would imagine about six years from now.
Canada’s needs thirty years ago, you might say. But for shits and giggles, the line is not shut down and the superbug is still being made. Bringing out a Canadian rev level would not be that hard, what exactly do you think needs to be modified for the Canadian variant.
I would be amazed if they even concidered Russian, but I don’t doubt they are gonna put Rafale, Typhoon, and possibly Saab through their paces, but in the end, the price for the superbug is going to be the deciding factor. Leased used ones, till the factory fresh come off the line.
This is just me , but we should have bought the Tomcats, when the USN stopped flying em.
The key word there is “history.” Canada has not bought second hand fighter jets in my lifetime, and I’m no spring chicken. The last time would have been the Voodoo, and those were barely “used” at all and were bought in a bit of a panic mode that led to further political problems.
The political prospect of NOT paying people in Canada to build the jets is totally out of the question. No government, representing any party, would do it.
The purchase of the CF-18 was not sometime Pierre Trudeau came up with on his own, and obviously any fighter Canada was going to buy was going to be equipped with the standard suite of guided air-to-air weapons, because all fighters being built at the time were. Sparrow support was a fundamental requirement; an interceptor that does not have a radar-guided missile is kind of pointless. (The F-16 was eliminated from consideration in part because it could not fire radar-guided missiles, at least not at the time; current versions can.) The AIR-2 Genie, a nuclear weapon, was obsolescent by that point and for obvious reasons was politically convenient to get rid of. It was hardly Trudeau’s personal opinion on the matter; the fact Canada was deploying nuclear weapons was a thing the Canadian government had long tried to avoid admitting, in part through the “uhhh, they’re on loan to us from the USA” story. But by the late 1970s the original need for Genie was gone; conventional air-to-air missiles were sufficiently reliable and effective to destroy Soviet bombers.
The reason the U.S. Navy stopped flying Tomcats is because they were falling apart, ridiculously expensive to maintain, needed significant upgrading to remain current, and their primary raison d/etre was the fire a weapon, the Phoenix, that was itself out of date, of extremely dubious reliability, and entirely inferior to the AMRAAM system. If Canada had bought Tomcats - well, I don’t precisely understand what that would have accomplished. We’d be shopping for a replacement now.
I’m late to the discussion, but didn’t their Naturopath tell them to take the child to the hospital? I know it would have been towards the end of the illness, but I am sure I read that somewhere…
And your lifetime would probably include the time frame were we bought 150a/b f-18 hornets, to replace the used voodoos, star fighters and retire the CF-100 and the CF-5. Of those 4, only the 100 and the 5 were built in Canada.
Thats a liberal statement of fact, politically speaking. The conservative plan was to have sub components of the 35 built in Canada, had we actually went through with the request for proposal. That would have given us a slice of the world wide 35 fleet, instead of just 50 or so jets for the forces. But the libs got elected and Justin said no 35, dont bother applying.
Meh, I just remember him on TV defending the purchase and the sparrow was his big thing, no more lobbing nukes at incoming bombers.
It was also single engine, when we wanted a dual engine for northern flights, and the airforce did not want the export model, with the under rated engine, the only other contender might have been the YF-17 that Northrop was slepping to anyone, that never went anywhere.
Agreed for the most part, except the final build of the Tom, that was the D model, or the super tom. Low milage, low traps and configured to match the F15e in bombing capability. For what we do it would have been perfect at the time. Straight and level flight, airline style and no heavy acrobatics. As for the aim-54, the only data on the missile in combat, that your likely to get, is from the Iranians, who made really good use of it.
Against fighters, it was probably out of date, but for Bombers, it would have been still a contender.
Much as I expected Jian was acquitted on all counts.
Paraphrasing the judge - the accusers behaviour after the “assaults” and their conduct within the system combined to destroy their credibility. When a case is based solely on the testimony of the witnesses credibility is the most crucial issue.
So now what?
I think he ought to be re-instated* and he should be given a public apology. His employer was pretty public about his termination and pretty proud of themselves for excising him so I think it is only fair that they make him whole.
Zeke
I don’t personally care about Jian, I just really hate Shad and want “Q” to return to its former glory.
I am totally perplexed by the general negative reaction to the verdict.
If a woman tells me she wants to “fuck my brains out” after she’s had a sampling of my sexual proclivities I would assume that I’m a stud and did her well.
The idea that I should be charged never mind convicted for assault is incomprehensible to me.
And I’m very sensitive to the vulnerable position that women are in particularly wrt date rape as I have two sisters who were violated that way many years ago and I assure you they wouldn’t want to have anything to do with their rapists.
Clearly though, in this case if Gian did not have the evidence he would have been convicted because the activists don’t give a damn about false accusations. Up until the trial I pretty well figured he deserved punishment.
He said she said is not enough to determine guilt or innocence
Perhaps it is time as a society to seriously discourage our young people from engaging in casual sex. Just like we discourage smoking, and drinking or texting while driving.
I started off thinking he was guilty and I was surprised to see him acquitted. Reading the decision, I can see how there would have been reasonable doubt.
It is discouraging that a lot of journalistic comments on the verdict seem to be willfully ignorant of legal basics.
The verdict was, based on my admittedly limited understanding of the evidence, correct.
However, the reaction is not the slightest bit perplexing. Essentially everyone knows Ghomeshi is a remarkably abusive asshole and probably got away with at least one crime. The system is such that he has to - “probably” is not good enough - but there it is; a jerk is getting away with it. On top of that the case is symbolic of the fact that people are becoming more and more concerned with the abuse women put up with.
Something that men need to realize is that women live with a constant, almost unconscious low-grade fear of men at all times. They are perpetually harassed and almost all women have been at least threatened or abused to some degree. My wife - who is no pushover, believe me - will, while away on business, never eat dinner alone, because there is a near-100% chance she’ll be approached by a man looking to have sex with her. When she politely declines their advances they often get mean. I’d like to say she is an exception because of her striking beauty, but the truth is I don’t know ANY women who do not have similar experiences.
Women are, rightly, starting to get pissed off about this. When you hear story after story of famous, rich men doing this shit and getting away with it, the fury begins to boil over.
What’s perplexing about this? The details of the Ghomeshi case are not the source of the anger, just as the details of the Michael Brown case are quite beside the point in understanding why anger boiled over and Black Lives Matter took off as a movement. It’s simply a focal point for an issue that is getting bigger and angrier by the day. It’s not one event, it’s all of them.
Think about the attitude that fathers exhibit toward trusting the young men sniffing around their teenage daughters. Why is it such a universal? Because Dad knows EXACTLY how at risk his daughter is. Always.
Yes, it’s true. Not only is it so but every woman has to put herself at risk, routinely throughout her day. She gets into elevators with a single man, she steps out to pump gas beside an unknown man pumping his, she has to sit beside a strange man on the bus.
Just because some perv was rubbing up against her on the subway yesterday, she still has to take the subway tomorrow and every day thereafter.
And if she gets victimized there is a better than even chance she’ll be asked what she was wearing, or why she was alone, or if she’s been drinking! No one will believe her, it seems, unless she’s got film footage or DNA evidence. When you make victims feel like it’s their fault they simply won’t report. And so pervs get to keep on perving.
I’m a father. I’m not concerned with “young men sniffing around” my teenage daughter.
My god. Has it come to this? I have never, ever thought of myself as being sheltered from reality, but if women are truly afraid of men on a daily basis then I guess I’ve been naive all along. In my world such a thing is almost completely unheard of.
I just entertained guests at my place of employment and had to arrange meetings.
Our chief nuclear engineer is a woman.
The head of the nuclear fuel development branch is a woman.
The person in charge of our management system is a woman.
I state this because I can’t imagine these women being afraid of eating alone or worrying about men approaching them for sexual favours.
There are perverts out there, but are women really afraid DAILY! If so, then I have completely been unaware of this for my entire life. My assumption was that probably 99.9% of men are actually decent human beings.