The Chocolate War

I just finished reading this bool called “The Chocolate War” by Robert Cormier. I just want to say this…

HOW DARE YOU MR.CORMIER??? You my be old but you have a very very sick and perverted mind! Talking about homosexuality like its no thing! Does anyone else want to discuss this? I think this book should be banned. My teacher thought the quite oppisite and sent me to detention. Even though I said it very nicely. Then again, she does hold some remorse towards the Catholic Church and me, and my friends, and other beings. Perhaps it was her way of punishing us for such filth.

This can only end in tears …

Yeah, ban this book.

Hell, why stop there, lets all go get torches and pitchforks and axes and shovels and march to Robert Cormiers house and drag him outside and beat himn senseless and burn him alive. And then we’ll all have pie.

That’ll teach him a lesson. How dare he think that Freedom of Speech applies to him.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Never mind that Cormier has been dead for about 4 years.

As for the OP, I think someone needs to get back to doing their school homework. There was no homosexuality in The Chocolate War.

Hmm, I’ve never read The Chocolate War? What is it, a guide to scat fetishes?

i think its about S&M with M&M

I’ve never read it either, but that question caused a bark that has my coworker looking at me! Nice!:smiley: :smiley:

Robert Cormier is a shitty writer who writes shitty books.

fauxpas is a fucking imbecile.

They’re made for each other.

The Chocolate War is a great book. It is a chilling portrait of the evils of conformity and the cruelty of adolescense.

What you call a “chilling portrait of the evils of conformity and the cruelty of adolescense,” I call a “boring and hackneyed tale of typical teen angst.”

But I suppose it’s all rather subjective.

I’d be more offended by talking about graft, corruption, and organized crime like it’s nothing (the focus of almost all his books on one level or another), while accepting young HS boys calling eachother gay as provocation as a perectly normal.
Were you complaining about how his book Fade deals with that, then I’d accept this complaint as relevant. You’d probably be vomitting into the toilet until you forgot about it, though.

friedo-
“Robert Cormier is a shitty writer who writes shitty books.”
No, Cormier is a stylistically talented writer who writes pointless books, the opposite of Phillip K. Dick, a shitty writer who writes creative books. Orson Scott Card falls much better into the “shitty writer who writes shitty books.” Read something decently written, the read something of his.

Talk about living down to your username.

Wow.

No, you’re confusing that with the Hershey Highway by John Rechy.

John Rechy wrote no such book. Really. But I bet he’d find it amusing.

Iacob_Matthew, I love Orson Scott Card. How anyone could find him to be a shitty writer is beyond me. Ender’s Game is brilliant. The Worthing Saga is phenomenal. He is often touted as one of the best sci-fi writers of our time. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I personally can’t stand Heinlein. I’d never call him a shitty writer, because he’s not one. I just don’t like his books.:wink:

Yes, talking about homosexuality is very much equal to having an old and perverted mind…

On Bizzaro earth.

May I just add that the OP and his/her OP make absolutely no sense to someone (such as my good self) who has not read ‘The Chocolate War’ nor heard of its author, R. Cormier.

My interpretation of the OP’s OP was that he/she had a major objection to the discussion of homosexuality. Now whether or not Cormier had raised the issue seems to be another matter altogether according to the other posts. I’m so confuzzled it ain’t funny.

So, in closing, what exactly are you whingeing about fauxpas?

Hey, at least all you got was detention. In some schools I’m sure you’d get locked in a boxing match that was fixed by the gang that rules the school and, as a school fundraiser, every student in the school would pay money to call a punch at your all but defenseless self, including a whole bunch of gratuitous nut shots.

Kids today, so fucking soft (you know, in the head).

IIRC, there’s maybe 15 lines discussing homosexuality in the whole book, culminating in the conclusion that people get pissed off when you call them something that they’re not. (In this case, main character takes umbrage at being called gay - they call him a faggot, IIRC - because he’s straight.)

Not a very profound point, and definitely not worth the amount of whining put forth by the OP.

I saw the movie. Does that count?

Marc

I’m with MGibson, I loved the movie. I don’t remember homosexuality being addressed at all though. So, could someone enlighten me on what the OP is bitching about? Does the author talk openly about homosexuality, and the OP is upset about it? As in “Homos are sick, we shouldn’t talk about them?”

-Tcat

Euty! You made me almost shoot Diet Coke out my nose on that one!! snickers