Browns fans killing themselves may have a positive aspect…ie, there will be less of them.
Gotta thin out the trailer park gene pool sometimes.
But I do agree that the Browns fans and coaches waffling on their QB has hurt more than helped. Anderson is the better choice by a longshot. Fortunately for my team, even he isn’t all that good outside of the last half of 2007.
Yes, we’ll lose almost 1/1000th as many as your frontrunner fanbase did between 2005 and mid-2006. Tell me, how many guys in brand new jersies will you see this year if the Bengals get off to a good start who claim to have “been there all along”? Maybe you can tell them to take the tags off.
Your city is almost an honorary part of Kentucky.
He was best in the first half of 2007, not the last half. He had the disastrous game in Cinci with the 50 mph towards the end.
What, they have more losses already this year than both those years combined. 
Not if a new CBA isn’t done. He’ll be a RFA otherwise.
Just because you live in Las Vegas now doesn’t disown you from the city of the team you root for. You don’t really want to get into a Cleveland versus Cincy battle, do you?
I think Mark Schlereth just called the Browns’ quarterback situation “a shonda.” Came out more like “shonder,” but still, it’s good to mix some Yiddish into your football coverage.
Quinn’s been horrible, clearly, but I’m amazed when bad teams give up on rookie quarterbacks this fast. Even with Anderson, this team isn’t going to win a lot of games. You’d think that Mangini would like to be able to tell Browns brass that he’s developed their potential star QB and that they now have a solid idea of what they have in Quinn. Guess not. Well, I’m sure Mangini knows his business.
The key point here is not that we have no quarterback. No, it’s that our leading scorer - Phil Dawson - is out again this week. Dude scored 108 field goal and extra points in 2008 - the rest of the team scored 120 in touchdowns. His replacement, Cundiff, already missed one under 30 yards last week.
Dawson can even get 'em from outside the red zone (since we can’t seem to get there anyway)…and in a BLIZZARD, to boot. We can’t even field goal our way to a win now.
The coaches see more of the QBs than the fans do. Quinn has had 3 years of practice, scrimmages, etc. to impress and two coaching staffs don’t seem to be too impressed with him. The pre-season QB competition was barely a competition - unless Anderson looked massively, massively better then the fan base would revolt if their precious Quinn didn’t get the start. By having neither QB perform well, Mangini had his hands tied. He had to start Quinn. But after 2.5 games of utter failure, he now goes with the guy he probably wanted all along.
People act like Anderson is incapable of being developed into a good quarterback, like he’s a 33 year old vet or something and there’s no point in letting him play now. But he’s only a year older than Quinn.
On fan loyalty? Sure. On trailer parks? I don’t know, I’ve never been to Cincinatti.
I didn’t know y’all bothered to do that. Thought you just sat together eating various types of sausage and making fun of Toledo. 
I certainly don’t question your fan loyalty, not after that scathing post you made a couple days ago to that poster that compared the Browns/Colts leaving the city…yikes.
That’s really funny!
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He’s not a rookie anymore, and Schlereth’s big knock on Quinn was the obvious one- he can’t or won’t throw downfield. When you have no running game and your short passing game isn’t getting you first downs anyway, throw the damn ball to Braylon Edwards. I’ve knocked him a lot, but he’s clearly the only guy on the entire offensive roster who can make plays on a regular basis.
What should be amazing is how quickly they gave up on Derek Anderson, not how quickly they’ve given up on Quinn. Anderson at least had some tremendous games to show that he had the capability to be a top-flight NFL quarterback.
Quinn has yet to have a good game, let alone a great one.
Quinn is prettier. And a first round draft pick. And a hometown kid. And a lesser known quality. The irrational emotional attachments are much stronger.
The attitude is essentially “we know Anderson isn’t the answer, and the backup hometown first round kid is who I’ve targetted all my hope at for 3 years, so let’s see what he can do”… but yeah, it’s not like Anderson is a 35 year old vet. He’s 25 and it’s possible he can develop into a steadier presence, and he clearly has shown more good than Quinn has.
I’m not questioning your personal fandom, but your fanbase as a whole. I remember what it was like in 2005 when your team failed to suck one year, and suddenly the number of Bengals fans jumped about 18x and they all claimed how they’d been around for a long time, throughout all the hardship. Then by mid-2006 they were all nowhere to be seen again. The degree of fair weather fandom there is slightly worse than Pittsburgh, which is to say really damn high.
Maybe he was comparing him to Shondor Birns. This, too, could blow up in our faces.
Hmmph, I stuck with them through Neal-throw-the-game-O’Donnell and the Amos Zeroue Experiment. I know it’s not on par with Browns fans’ suffering but it was still not easy.
No, you’re not a real Steelers fan until you can say you stuck with them through Bubby Brister. Now THAT was a terrible QB to have to endure.
One of my fondest memories is the 51-0 thrashing the Browns put on the Steelers on Opening Day 1989. They returned 3 turnovers for TDs that day.
For the record, Neil O’Donnell had the lowest career interceptions-per-attempt ratio in history, and he gets way too much crap for Super Bowl 30. The Steelers had no business even making it to the game, considering the rest of their offensive talent. Bam Morris? Really?
He’s started all of six games over the last two years. No argument about how bad he’s been, or that he should be throwing to Winslow downfield. (The point about Anderson’s age is also well taken, I thought he was older than that.) If you’ve got a young QB I think you have to trust him for more time than that.
It can be. Many people gave up after the entire 1990’s debacle decade and only came around again when Marvin Lewis came around. Some folks jumped ship due the enormous suckitude from last year, true. There’s still a really big hardcore fanbase, though. Many just stopped going to games and spending their money but would still watch every Sunday from home, if it was on TV. The Bengals have sold out something like 44 or so straight games now.
Will the Browns sell out all their games this season in spite of their woes?
I think bandwaggoning is a pretty NFL-wide phenomenon amongst franchises that have long stretches of losing football.
And that is as it should be. If you go to a restaurant that gives you food poisoning, you stop going there. If you follow a team that stinks, eventually you get tired of it and find something better to do with your time. If the team improves or the restaurant stops poisoning you, then you can go back.
Foot poisoning?! Have you been eating in a gymnasium locker room?