The courts. Appeal an appeal in the supreme court.

What sort of legal grounds could apply for the supreme court to accept that they have jurisdiction over a circuit court appeal judged in the high court? An appeal of an appeal from circuit to high to supreme. So no errors in fact but errors in law only. ( I live in Ireland but guess same laws apply more or less, anything can be double checked by me afterwards to make sure.)

A: If the order from a high court would be that one side loses on all points but that same side gets a financial compensation for damages would that not on its own be a ground? What law would apply to that?

B: What if a judge would assume that land bought outright with no right of way or infringements by MR A would have belonged to MR B all the time that MR B owned the land next to it? What if there is no proof of ownership by anyone else but the purchaser of this land MR A and the judge states it belongs and had belonged to the other party in that dispute MR B?
What laws or grounds would that judge ignore?

What if this judge then orders the landregistry to amend to his order?
C: What if a judge assumes that a track ran over land and had been running over land for time immemorial where no such prove is given and a photo on the ground shows no sign of any track, no tractor imprints nor any difference whatsoever with surrounding grass, and the judge assumes that from an areal point, if one were to take an areal photo, a track would be visible and therefore this track would have been used continuously for time immemorial?

What if two or more witnesses were to claim that this track did not run over this land in the past?

D: What if evidence from land registry were to state that a plot, with a house on it, was made a few yards bigger to accommodate for say a carport and it is accepted that this would suggest that land registry was very accurate in their measurements. But when a judge determines that land registry was wrong when they drew the plot as it does not resemble the recent situation, what error would that judge make? What grounds would there be to appeal the appeal?

E: What if a circuit court judge errors and when this is appealed the high court judge just takes this error as correct without checking the facts? And this judge dismisses the claim?

F: What if a judge ignores facts based beyond doubt on the law of physics or maths or similar, carried forward by a non official expert in that field, (who is an expert in a similar field) contradicting a certified ‘expert’ in that field who skewes reality and hides facts. What if the judge states that the non official expert cannot be right as he has not got the right certification and the ‘expert’ is certified and therefore must be right. What if the so called expert on other side has been caught out during cross examination but the judge simply sticks to the certified expert.
What grounds of appeal would there be in this high court appeal to appeal this appeal further to the supreme court?

You have too many questions and I don’t attempt to answer them all, if any. But in the USA, there is no “high” court below SCOTUS. If the action was brought in a state court (circuit court), it can be appealed to the state’s appellate court, and then to the state’s supreme court. SCOTUS can accept certiorari upon certain conditions, and if it wishes too. If the action is brought in a federal court (district court), it can be appealed to the appropriate Circuit Court of Appeals, which one depending upon which district the state is in. (There are 9 federal court of appeals.) It could then be appealed to SCOTUS, who can accept it upon certain conditions. Some appeal issues must be accepted by SCOTUS, such as constitutional questions, if the appellant has standing.

Second, most states do not have the Torrens system of registration, to which you refer. Documents related to real estate are either filed or recorded in the Registrar’s Office or Recorder of Deeds (depending upon the state). Title policies are issued by title insurance companies, or an attorney can search the records and issue his opinion.

Sounds to me like you’re asking very detailed questions of Irish law and court procedure. You need to talk to an Irish lawyer - offhand, I don’t think we have any here at the SDMB.

Since this appears to be about a specific legal case, IMHO is a better forum than GQ.

Colibri
General Questions Moderator

Nitpick - 13 now, the 1st through 11th Circuits, the DC Circuit, and the Federal Circuit.

I have lost everything to a cowboy with local power who has friends in the courts.
In Ireland the law is such that for an appeal you have to have legal grounds on law ignored by the judge.
It is not about grounds of fact.
Otherwise you cannot even appeal it.
And no lawyer will take a case without pay.
They love their milk cow over here and landdisputes are milked to the max.
There is no free legal aid for landdisputes.
Most cases in Ireland are landdisputes.

But does anyone know on point of law?

You’re looking for technical and specific advice about Irish law on a general topic message board based from America? Any legal advice you’re going to get will be next to worthless. You might as well as your friends and family what they think.

Not completely true. Points of law might be the same and here we have no free access to lawbooks or knowledge on how to find what to look for even. Even with the directions of what could be a point of law it is hard to check. Lawyers that I visited here do not give any clues and not even say if there is a point of law even. They all want 10 grand or more upfront to state if there is a point of law.

See SC Rule 10;

This SC Primer may help;

http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/publishing/preview/publiced_preview_scprimer.authcheckdam.pdf

I suggest you call your local Citizen information Centre, which among other services offers free legal advice on all sorts of ordinary matters. 0761 07 4000. They are staffed by actual Irish lawyers.

Next time google “Ireland free legal information”.

  1. Find a Solicitor.
  2. If you are too cheap to do so… contact these guys.