The End: A Series Of Unfortunate Events and The Beatrice Letters

So people,

don’t know about everywhere else, but book the thirteenth comes out on friday 13th and I am going to be grabbing it with all and any available hands and the rest of the weekend will be dedicated to reading it.

Any speculations on what is going to happen, what VFD stands for, if we ever find out what happened to Beatrice etc…?

Also, has anyone read the Beatrice Letters? I am useless at codes, but I’m okay at figuring out when there must be codes present.

What is “The Silence Knot”? The poem is there at the end of the book but I was sure it must mean something more than that. Surely? I tried looking for anagrams but I can’t find anything meaningful. Also what does Wet Viper Perm anagramalise too?

The little cutout letters spell a variety of things, but are they relevant in solving anything else? Or maybe there are no clues at all and I’m just driving myslef crazy with all this rabid paranoid speculation…

Anyone have ideas, theories, solutions?

Please? :confused:

Oh and please if anyone has any positive information from the last book, box spoilers :smiley:

I thought the Beatrtice letters were ‘spoilerific’. I kind of wish I hadn’t read them.

I am wondering what the heck is going to happen in the last installment. The way part 12 ended was pretty shocking. I’m picking up the book on Friday.

I got the Beatrice Letters because the packaging is just so damn cool! Haven’t read them yet and after Zebra’s comment, I’m glad.

I’ve been enjoying the books without trying to solve any of the mysteries. That probably means I’m not getting 100% (or even 50%) out of them, but I don’t care. :slight_smile:

I do think the Baudelaire parents aren’t really dead, but I have no basis for that.

you thought the Beatrice letters were spoilerish? I must have missed something big, because I didn’t really think they gave away anything about the ASOUE story…

The kids and I are dying for this book, but we want to experience it the same way we’ve had most of the others…read aloud by the incomparable Tim Curry. So we’ve got to wait even longer, and guard even more carefully against spoilers! Come to think of it, I think I’ll ditch my subscription to this thread. :slight_smile:

Well, here is my guess, conveniently located in a SPOILER BOX.


He makes it clear, at least I thought so, that the letters from Beatrice are not from the kids mother, but from their younger sister. So the parents survived the fire and had another child. Beatrice is searching for her siblings. There is a reference to seeing Sunny on TV on her cooking show. So Sunny is an adult. The letters take place long after the events in the books.

At least that is how I read them. Now I’m off to buy the book to see if I’m right.[/SPOILER]

I’d been wondering as to whether I should get the Beatrice Letters or not… but if they spoil things, I guess I’ll read them afterward.

I heard parts of the CD last night, and the songs are kind of funny, not enough to buy it, but in an Unfortunate Buying Haze, I could see picking up everything tonight.

I picked up both books at lunch today. In about 30 minutes I had read through “The Beatrice Letters”. For $20, you might be better off sitting at Border’s or Barnes and Noble and reading it. It had some revelations, I think, but it’s been a while since I’ve read 1-12 that I could have simply forgot. As for the anagram, I have no idea what it could be.


Plus, there are other letters like the leech which could be an “S” or the lock of hair which could be a “C”. If those are more letters for the anagram, who knows…[/spoiler]

I just finished The End. As expected, not all questions are answered. But I thought is was still a satsifying end to the series.

I read The Beatrice Letters first and didn’t feel it spoiled The End at all. In fact, The End cleared up some questions in TBLI initially came to the same conclusion as Zebra about Beatrice, but then remembered that at the end of The Penultimate Peril that Kit Snicket was pregnant so I thought that perhaps Beatrice #2 (the one who wrote to Lemony) was Kit’s daughter.

I think I’ll go back and reread the other twelve books now.

Anyone care to spoil The End for me?

Me too?

I believe wiki has a summation with spoilers.

Well I was half right.
The final book is a bit different from the others. It really gets into some religious symbolism.

So, spoilers, spoilers spoilers.

The children and Olaf were on a boat on the ocean, the end up shipwrecked on a mysterious island. The people who live there, were all shipwrecked there, very few were born there and the islanders seem to instantly see that Olaf is a villain and they refuse to take him in, while they do take in the children. Of course there is a catch or maybe 22 of them, all set forth by the island’s facilitator, Ishmael. They give up their clothes to live in the simple white robes of the islanders. Klaus is barely allowed to keep his glasses. However they all secretly keep something. (ribbon, commonplace book, a whisk) The islanders lives consists of eating seaweed, raw fish stew (no spices) and onion soup everyday, combing the beach for debris from shipwrecks. The vast majority of which is dumped on the far side of the island in an area the islanders are not allowed to go. On that side is a huge apple tree.

Anyway, later Kit and the Very Deadly Viper wash up on the shores. Olaf finds the diving helmet with the deadly fungus and he attempts to disguise himself as the preggers Kit Snicket. Kit is injured and spends most of the time on a big pile of books that she made into a raft.

Some of the islanders want to oust Ishmael as the leader. When the kids secrets are found out, they are cast out and have to hang with Olaf. Olaf has been put into a large bird cage. Olaf has some great bits with the kids as he schemes to take over the island, using the fungus and the kids as henchmen. The kids complain that something isn’t fair and he just looks at them and says, “The World isn’t fair.” The rebellious islanders try to enlist the kids to help them. They have mixed feelings about causing another schism. But when they and Inky, (the Very Deadly Viper) travel to the far side of the island, they find not only the Apple tree, which is the size of office building, they find all the debris of the world. Then, inside the tree they find living quarters that include a vast library, a workshop and a huge kitchen.
They also find a huge book call “A Series of Unfortunate Events” which is a history of the island. They read the last entry and it says how Kit Snicket showed up and give a reference to an earlier page. The kids turn to that page and realize that the page is written in their mother’s hand. Ishmael shows up and explains that basically he only wants to keep the islanders safe. The things he dumps here, and enjoys for himself, could cause schisms, that is why he doesn’t tell them the whole story, just as their parents didn’t tell the kids the whole story as they never mentioned to the kids anything about the island or VFD to protect them from the worlds evil.

So the kids, kind of decide to stay at the island with Ish, but the rebellion starts and when Olaf shows up, Ish shoots him with the harpoon gun’s last harpoon. He hits the helmet and everyone gets poisoned. The kids run back to the tree and they look all through the kitchen but there is no horseradish or wasabi. So they decide to read the book to see if their parents hid the stuff. They almost die as they finally figure out that the apple tree has been crossed with what they need and the Viper brings the nearly dead children an apple which saves their lives. They gather up a bunch of apples and head back to the islanders. They are all leaving the island and are going to row ashore. They won’t take the apples. Ish explains that they are going to row to lousy lane and go to the horseradish plant there. The kids remember how he has been eating apples all along so he is immune.

The kids go back to Kit Snicket but they can’t lift her off the books. She explains how she found the Quagmires and how they ended up on the sub with the Captain and Ferdenand and Fiona and how Fiona was sorry for what she did to Klaus. However the ship was attacked by the mysterious thing that is just the big question mark which Kit’s brother called ‘the great unknown’. Kit left on the raft and everyone else goes into the great unknown. One of the Quagmires calls out to Violet as they were going down, but Kit couldn’t tell which boy it was.

Then she goes into labor. They can’t get her down off the books so they must get help from Olaf. He is about to die from the fungus as is Kit. Kit can’t take the cure because it is unsafe for unborn children. Olaf eats an apple, and helps down Kit and gives her a kiss, then he dies from, not from the fungus but from the harpoon. Kit has a child, a little girl and Kit dies. The children stay on the island for a year, raising the child themselves and reading the book. They decide to rejoin the unsafe world realizing that the story never ends. It didn’t begin with them, nor will it end with them. The find that the boat they came upon is the best boat to leave upon and when they remove the ‘Count Olaf’ nameplate that had been taped on, they read the real name of the ship, which is also the name of Kit’s little girl.


So I was right in that the Beatrice letters are from the daughter, to Lemony but not that their mother survived. Their parents did not survive the fire. The moral to the story is that that life is unfair and cruel but worth living.

Good thing I previewed, I almost messed those spoiler tags.

I just finished it last night. Like usual, there was just a whirlwind of references. I’m glad that Quidditch has been updated already because I was driven by the story but kept getting distracted by the allusions.

I didn’t care much for the ending and thought it was a cheap cop out to throw out in medias res and felt that too much was left unresolved.

I just finished it this afternoon.

It doesn’t end the way you might expect and if you’re looking for any mysteries to be revealed or questions to be answered, you’re going to be dissappointed. The author was right when he said that if you’re looking for a happy ending (in the traditional sense, at least) you had better look elsewhere.

But on the other hand, the ending was strangely satisfying and after having thought about it for a few hours, it fits. And it works.

I agree it was a satisfying ending, though not necessarily “happy.” However, they never do explain…

what’s so important about the sugar bowl?

I’m thinking that they might be planning on writing some sequel books. Probably authored by someone other than Lemony Snicket.

I haven’t read any of his books, but I heard the guy interviewed on NPR last week. Funny dude. You can probably find the interview online.

They had little kids asking him questions, and while a little girl was asking him a question, another kid was making odd noises in the background. After her question, the author was saying, “I’m more interested in the other noises. It sounds like she might be smothering another child.”

I finished “The End” this morning and then ran to the bookstore (good thing it’s just two blocks away) and read “The Beatrice Letters” in the store. I’m confused.

[spoiler]So…Beatrice. There are two of them? Kit’s daughter (Lemony’s niece) and the fourth Baudelaire sibling? Huh. How could have the Baudelaire parents have had another baby when Sunny was still a baby when they died…it’s not like the kids wouldn’t have noticed their mother pregnant, or, you know, the baby. Or was she an older sibling, born before Violet?

Because otherwise there is only one Beatrice, Kit’s daughter whom the Baudelaires raised as their sibling, in which case Lemony is in love with his niece. And that can’t be right.

And I’ve just spent 20 minutes trying to figure out what obscene phrase “a wet viper perm” is an anagram of. Pervert something? Tramp something?

Another thing about the code in the Beatrice Letters: on every page following one with the cut-out letter, the same letter appears written on the letter itself or is the shape of the thing in the picture. So are the letters supposed to be doubled in the code? Otherwise, why bother emphasizing them like that?[/spoiler]


Or was Beatrice the Baudelaires’ mother?