The End of Neoconservatism? (Fukuyama article)

Conservative historian Francis “The End of History” Fukuyama has published an article in last Sunday’s New York Times Magazine entitled “After Neoconservatism”. His basic theme seems to be that neoconservatism has discredited itself as a naive, quasi-Leninist approach to foreign policy, and that the United States needs “new ideas” for promoting liberty and democracy, which however will probably not have a positive short-term effect on the problems of radical Islamism and anti-Western terrorism. Is this true? If so, what should these new ideas be?

Some excerpts from the article illustrating some of Fukuyama’s main points:

There’s one thing Fukuyama seems to have missed: Bush didn’t screw up the war; he’s screwed up the occupation.

Screwed up the AIMS of the war. Without accomplishing the aims of the war it is a failure no matter how many ay-rabs we managed to blow up.

-Joe

Ah…Francis, Francis, Francis. You got us into this mess, and now…hmph.

We can stop conflating markets and democracy when mucking around abroad; that’d be a good start.

Why is moderation and reasonableness always a revelation to policy wonks and political theorists?

Fukayama was against the war wasn’t he?

I’d love to see the end of paleo/neoconservatism, and see the return of the true conservatives (as the definition originally meant). I don’t see it happening very soon though. As long as “Joe Public” keeps buying their line and their constant pandering to fear and barely disguised imperialism, it just won’t happen.

This point seems to me to be just plain wrong:

I think it’s much more logical to attribute Radical Islamism to the oppression of authoritarian regimes which squelched all forms of liberal opposition and left the mosques alone, because mosques weren’t seen as political. That frustrated opposition to authoritarian, non-democratic, corrupt regimes only had one place to go.

In any event, I’ve not had much respect for Fukuyama since his “End of History” prediction. We’ve had an awful lot of history since the fall of the Berlin Wall, none of which he successfully predicted.

Maybe because they are just too human after all, and the idea that somewhere there must be an ideological Grand Unified Theory that will explain everything and deliver a “silver bullet” that will fix it, without having to accept compromises or settle for “a good enough for now”, is irresistible. Ideologues all the way across the spectrum are guilty of this, and not just in politics but in religion, enterprise management, you name it.

Fascinating article by FF – interesting how he says that neocons have the problem of “fighting the last war”. Interestingly, the Cold war was won by keeping the pressure on without actually directly engaging the adversary, until the adversary could no longer sustain itself. And yes, there is the observation, that “liberal democracy” (e.g. US or W. Europe style) evolves as a result of cultures evolving in the direction of valuing a better life for the individual, it’s not something you can ramrod.

I’m really having trouble buying this part of his analysis. First of all, a good chunk of the former Soviet Union is in a headlong race towards totalitarianism. Why anyone would look to this event as some model for democracy is beyond me.

Secondly, even when the communists were swept out of power, the mechanism of the state didn’t cease to exist. The security apparatus, the legislature, the courts–those things that make a country run–all remained intact. And even in the shockiest of shock economic conversions, the state run economies were dismantled over a period of time. In Iraq, the Bush administration completely dissolved the underlying of structure of the Baath government and instituted an overnight shock transition to capitalism. I don’t know what the neocons were using as their model, but it wasn’t the Soviet Union.

Because the neocons seem to have no plan as to how to establish a democracy and ignored all advice from intelligence and the State Department as to all the problems they were going to run into, I simply don’t believe that the goal was to build democracy. I don’t believe that the neocons had idealistic blinders on. They had another agenda. Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to figure out what that is, because all the other agendas I can think of sound like looney tunes conspiracy theories.

I’ll invest in your flying machine, Orville!

Welcome to SDMB…

Welcome to the SDMB, Caius. I’m inclined to think that the neocons did have some ideology goggles on, but the ideology wasn’t solely about democracy. Rather, it seems to have been a combination of pro-democracy idealism and “free-market fundamentalism”, a belief that market forces will automatically maximize prosperity and freedom if you just give them room to operate.

Naomi Klein’s Sept. 2004 article Baghdad Year Zero argued for this diagnosis:

Looks to me as though this “crisis of faith” is basically what’s now being expressed by Fukuyama.

He was part of the “New American Century Project” that listed regime change in Iraq among its goals, but he opposed the 2003 invasion on the grounds that it was ill-judged and dangerous.

Hmmm?

What you are describing is what strengthened radical islamism and made it grow into a political power. But I’m willing to accept that in its beginning, much like fundamentalism in the West, it may have started with a “our world is going to hell in a handbasket; it must be because we’re not sticking to core values” revival movement.

Fukuyama himself in the full article mentions that and reiterates that he did not mean what people on all sides of the political spectrum took him to mean. Well, live and learn, eh, Francis?

From Fukuyama’s article:

Jeez. Is Fukuyama being disingenuous? Or can this Harvard Ph.D. really be stupid enough to believe that was ever part of the neocon agenda?!

That is and was part of the neo-con agenda. It might not have been part of the Bush administration agenda, but the neo-cons are all about democracy, human rights, and free markets. Remember, Fukuyama was a neo-con…he knows of what he speaks.

Free markets, yes. The rest is neocon propaganda.

Hmmm

That would be mesoconservatism ?

According to you, maybe. But if it’s propaganda, it’s been pretty consistant propaganda. Neoconservatives have been beating the drum for more democracy and human rights around the world since the 70s, and their primary criticism of the Soviet Union wasn’t that it wasn’t a free market (although, of course, they did criticize it for that), but that it was a totalitarian dictatorship that didn’t respect the rights of its people.

I am familiar with the PNAC website, and I have never read anything there, nor in this forum, to convince me that the ideological neocons give a rat’s ass about democracy as such, if it produces results in any way incompatible with free-market capitalism.