Yes, that was a sticky situation.
VICIOUS, people! VICIOUS!
Viscous is used in reference to the flowability(?) of a liquid. Vicious is used in reference to rabid dogs and Republicans.
Obama is a librul. Libruls are evil. Hitler was evil.
Therefore, Obama=Hitler.
Simple reflexive property. Damned libruls - don’t even understand basic math.
-Joe
I do understand humor, but I fear that not everybody understands it, so let’s add:
My soccer ball is round. round things roll. My car rolls.
Simple reflexive property, My soccer ball = My car
I’ll admit it looked suspicious to me when I wrote it. But spell check told me I was okay so I went with it.
Of course you liberal hippies miss the point. The unnecessary purchase of a puppy increases the National Debt and the money would have much better been spent in Defense or at least some big corporation.
That would be a fair question if Obama had signed a bunch of death sentences or started a war which caused thousands upon thousands of civilians to be killed. I am not aware Obama has done any of this yet. Or am I missing something?
Well, if we’re going to go with “humor” we may as well go with a joke that’s older than pretty much everyone reading this:
God is love. Love is blind. Ray Charles is blind.
Ray Charles is God.
-Joe
It was mentioned in a previous paragraph to the one quoted. In addition to this Todd Gitlin addresses the issue rather comprehensively, and his antiwar bona fides aren’t in much doubt.
In any case, the fact that the protesters were more politically radical than the population at large, even those at sympathy with that issue, cannot be denied - indeed, Michael Lerner, David Corn and Gitlin in these articles and others decried this fact and wished for protests that were more representative, inclusive and most of all persuasive.
I think this point could be made of these protests as well, though they seem at first glance to have been organized more from the grassroots. Indeed many of them were openly critical of Republicans - including some elected ones present.
He does, he does. Every Godwinization means another pineapple.
N.B.: Anti-Israeli != anti-semitic.
:dubious: So? Start your own thread. But it would belong in the Pit, not GD.
How can it be about that?! Practically all of the people attending these rallies are getting tax cuts.
And, for some reason, they don’t like being reminded of that.
It was organized by Fox News and right wing media. It was a staged, media created stunt, sponsored and promoted by the mainstream of the party. Is the Governor of Texas outside the mainstream of the party?
Or you could just move as far as “progressive” (defining same as something well to the right of “socialist” and well to the left of “liberal”).
Already answered, and while nobody would say anti-Semitism was a driving force behind these rallies, nobody would be surprised by the occasional anti-Semitic comment or placard or gesture at them.
And yes, I do mean anti-Semitic. I know the difference - whereas I think some on this board might not, and might excuse blatant anti-Semitism if it were uttered in the context of the pro-Palestinian cause.
Well, on other boards I’ve seen comparisons between his civilian service corp idea and the Brownshirts. (The assumption is that such volunteering (1) will be made compulsory and (2) will involve indoctrination.) And his demanding seats on the boards of corporations the Admin bails out obviously is “fascism,” because fascism includes government-controlled capitalism. (But so does socialism, and so does mere capitalist-friendly dirigisme, and we ain’t anywhere near there yet.)
The war protests were not infested with any antisemitic themes that I ever saw, and I can guarantee that the majority of protesters would have a had a problem with anyone carrying antisemitic signs. I’m calling bullshit on that. There was certainly no visible prevalence of it, and it wasn’t a theme that was supported and promoted by mainstream media outlets and elected officials.
I’m done addressing that particular tu quoque. All it indicates is that you can’t defend the teabaggers, so you’re trying to change the subject.
Funnily enough I was reading some of the old anti-war threads from 2002-03 yesterday and in one I mention a number of “off-message” groups who took part in the big London march, including a small but visible pro-Palestine contingent. I’d guess that they qualify as both anti-Israel and anti-Semitic, although they were hardly a statistically significant presence.
The CND and pro-Kurd groups were there and visible too, as well as the “partygoer” crowd (college kids having a day out), people in funny costumes, signwavers, nuns, Buddhist monks, families, a few recognizable politicians, and a lot of other general horked-off people.
I’ll admit that a lot of the anti-Iraq War protests were unfocused, and were prone to be a general conglomeration of people with a variety of anti-Bush grievances, along with kids that were in it for a party.
They were NOT infested with antisemites, though, and they sure as hell weren’t LED by them.