The Fairness Doctrine: a good idea?

I suppose it’s a matter of semantics. The FCC grants permission to broadcast on a specific frequency for the sole purpose of making sure stations don’t interfere with each other. Think of it in terms of the FAA regulating the spacing between airliners so they don’t run into each other. The government doesn’t own the airspace or the airplanes, but it does have the responsibility of trying to prevent passengers from being killed. If you don’t maintain airspace separation, you can’t keep your pilot’s license. Similarly, if we don’t keep our signal from jamming someone else’s signal, we can’t keep our broadcast license. Take that similarity a step further – because only so many airplanes will fit in the air at one time, the federal government then assumes power over airline scheduling and routing – power that no one ever gave it – and pretty soon the government is dictating business practices, ticket prices and a host of other aspects of airline operation that have nothing to do with passenger safety. Similarly, FCC power over broadcasting began with assignment of frequencies and quickly ballooned to cover content, ownership and myriad other aspects of operation having nothing to do with signal clarity.

This brings us to **Renob’s ** other point – serving the “public interest.” Because old broadcasting equipment couldn’t maintain the frequency separation that is now possible, the FCC assumed that only a few frequencies were available in any given location. That meant only a few radio (and later TV) stations could operate in any given community. So the FCC successfully circumvented the First Amendment by arguing that the rarity of available frequencies put them in the public domain. That meant that anyone lucky enough to land one of these rare, prized frequencies, had to devote a certain amount of content to the public good.

Technology quickly outstripped this need but, as I said earlier, once the government had grabbed a power, it wasn’t going to relinquish it. Until the mid-1980s (one thing for which I am thankful to the Reagan presidency is what little de-regulation of the broadcast industry it accomplished) the FCC set guidelines on how many hours per week stations had to devote to “public interest.” It also dictated how many minutes of commercials we could air per hour and a host of other content requirements. The Reagan de-regulation eliminated all but the barest of public interest requirements. We are still required to keep every letter, postcard and thank-you note we get from the public; we are supposed to declare how much PI programming we’re going to do, then stick to it; and we have to be sure we don’t grossly offend anyone who might accidentally hear something they think is offensive. Beyond that, there is little content regulation nowadays.

We still don’t have the First Amendment freedom that other media enjoy, but we’re working on it. Once we have that, then you’ll begin to see true fairness in broadcasting.

We have something akin to the “Fairness Doctrine” in the UK. There is a requirement during elections that each major party receive equal treatment by TV and radio - which essentially boils down to equal time. This OfCom decision (warning: pdf) is a recent example: Bloomberg TV broadcast live coverage of a major Labour Party election event, followed up by an interview with Tony Blair. Other parties didn’t get a look in. OfCom (the regulatory body) judged that they were in breach of the code.

I don’t need to tell you the sequel: government control of all political speech, widespread censorship, the death of participatory democracy. Even as I type this, the jackbooted thugs are breaking down my door to destroy the last bastion of free thought in the British Isles. It’s too late for us but I beg you, my cousins across the sea, fight this evil while you still have a chance.

…or maybe Bloomberg were forced to broadcast a public apology, at a time and of a duration of OfCom’s choosing. But the jackbooted thugs can’t be far away.

TWEEEET!

Everybody back off.

If you want to challenge an actual statement that has been posted, feel free, but everyone needs to stop telling other posters what they believe or how they feel or whether they are shallow or whether they could be "bothered’ to post any particular thing. The discussion is also not moved forward with rolleyes smileys, charges of lying, or foul language.

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Government interference in what is heard or seen in ANY way is bad. To me, America is about majority rule while still protecting the rights of the minority. There is ALWAYS a way to get media that conveys a point of view that you agree with (or disagree with). Hell, there’s outlets available where you can convey that point of view yourself. That right is not currently being infringed upon. All the FD does is tell media outlets what they HAVE to broadcast or print and that does infringe on people’s rights.

I think a better option than some BS law is to teach media literacy to children. We teach them how to read in school. We should teach them how to read what they’re reading. We should be teaching them how to be aware of the source of the message as well as the message itself. We should also teach them to seek out alternative viewpoints so that they don’t just get spoonfed the same crap over and over again.

In short we should teach children at an early age to be more responsible consumers of media. Armed with the right tools, the media couldn’t get away with “propaganda.”

BZZZT!

The Fairness Doctrine predated the 1950s and was implemented during the height of the Red Scare. No 1960s liberals need to take credit or blame.

I think there is a problem, but I would suggest that it would be best solved by returning to the period between the abandonment of the Fairness Doctrine and the move to permit monopolies to control huge percentages of local markets, thus letting the market of ideas have the best chance to work it out in public.

The fairness doctrine should be brought back. Public discourse in elections will eventually arrive at a more educated electorate. All parties should be able to present their viewpoints. Maybe a 3rd party will present ideas that particularly resonate with you. If they are not allowed to bring their viewpoints we all are more impoverished. What are we afraid of ideas. ?
Newspapers are in my opinion far from liberal. They are owned by huge corporations that subltely skew the paper into featuring the owners viewpoint. Before the Iraq war all news and TV stations backed the war. Dissenting opinions were smothered. How did that serve America? If opposing opinions were properly offered ,we may have proceeded more cautiously.

Well, that’s sort of true, in that the Fairness Doctrine sort of started in 1949 (Before that was the “Mayflower Doctrine”, which didn’t allow any political editorializing on the airwaves). But, most of the rules of the Fairness Doctrine were codified in 1967 (the personal attack and political editorial rules), as well as in 1971 (the “Ascertainment of Community Needs” process), and it was the '67 rules that were upheld in the Red Lion decision.

Sorry, I got it confused with the 1972 reporting requirements, which were sweeping and draconian, and came out of a 1969 Supreme Court case (Red Lion v. FCC). That was a case inspired by an attack by a radio evangelist on an author. I *knew * liberals were involved somehow! The Fairness Doctrine was actually a softer version of the 1940s Mayflower Doctrine. Thanks, Tom, you sent me back to the textbook on that one.

[groan! whimper!] Haven’t you been paying attention, Max? I’m giving you guys this stuff straight out of my Masscom 101 lecture notes! Broadcasters are not interested in public discourse. We are interested in profit$. To make profit$, we need audience – hare, rating, Arb$, whatever – and to get the audience we’re willing to give away food and concert tickets, cross-dress and get dunked in tanks of water, even pretend that we care (a little bit, at least) about burning issues of the day. But it’s all a show. That’s what we do. We put on a $how. And you don’t need fairness to put on a show. If you want public discourse, subscribe to a newspaper. There are still a few of those around, I’m told.

Editing: OK, I just now saw **Capt. Amazing’s ** post. Sorry, I had my nose buried in my textbooks.

Happy to.

Bolding mine. (BTW, if you search the Telecom Act for the phrase “public interest, convenience, and necessity” you’ll find it pretty much all over the place.

That’s beyond my limited abilities; that’s where Mark Fowler, Reagan’s FCC chair, comes into the picture. Up until 1981, there was an implied contract: in exchange for a broadcast license, which is pretty much a license to mint money, broadcast stations would provide some services that weren’t profitable, but could be said to serve the public interest in a more direct way: to provide quality news (which, back then, was a money-loser), run PSAs for nonprofits and local governments, to stay on the air with coverage during local disasters, and so forth.

Mark Fowler kissed that goodbye, determining that whatever the broadcasters wanted to put on the air, must be in the public interest, because they wanted to make money, and the way to make money was to provide whatever the public wanted.

You can argue whether that’s good or bad (and that’s a debate for another day, AFAIAC), but that’s what happened.

So if I put a big “Mike Gravel for President” banner over El Capitan in Yosemite Valley, the government can’t stop me because they own it, they’re explicitly bound by the Constitution, and to dictate that I couldn’t engage in that sort of speech on that piece of government property would violate the First Amendment?

It means that if you’ve only got a few thousand broadcast licenses to hand out, and you’ve got more than a hundred million adults, this privilege of broadcast speech - much more powerful than everyday speech - can only be wielded by the few. If they get to use that speech on behalf of themselves, it’s gonna be kind of unfair. So the principle of the Communications Act of 1934 was that the licensees would “serve the public interest, convenience, and necessity” rather than their own interest, convenience, and necessity.

Seemed to make sense at the time. :slight_smile:

Absolutely not. I don’t expect broadcasters to be interested in fairness, the public interest, or anything besides making a buck. If we want the airwaves to be used for any purpose besides turning that broadcast license into profits, it has to be written into the law.

Or I could go right here. We’ve got a pretty lively and informed level of discourse at this place; that’s why I keep ponying up my $7.49 each year. That, and the oddball humor. :slight_smile:

But there’s no reason to expect newspapers to do anything besides what makes a buck, either. And unlike newspapers, which are free to do whatever we want, we do happen to own the airwaves that the broadcasters broadcast over, and we can require various things in exchange for the renewal of a broadcast license if we so choose.

If you’re a broadcaster, and you don’t like the conditions? You’re free not to apply for renewal. Plenty of people out there are eager to have that license in your stead. It’s a free country.

Okey dokey. Right now, “you” are requiring some pain-in-the-ass reporting, and that’s about it. Oh, and that I not let my signal interfere with my competitor, which I wouldn’t do anyway because it’s just bad business. Beyond that, there’s nothing I did as a newspaper editor that I can’t do now. I just have to keep better track of it.

I’m not so sure newspapers can do *anything * they want to do. There are still some limits to FOI, and there’s still liability for combining defamation, publication, identification and malice aforethought.

I understand that you really, *really * want to own those airwaves. Go ahead, I don’t mind. If you ever figure out how to put one in your pocket and take it home with you, let me know. Until then, I maintain that airwaves can’t be owned. Of course, “you” can still write regulations that I would have to adhere to in order to renew my (actually, my boss’) license. Theoretically, that is. I’m not holding my breath.

As I’ve mentioned, RT, I concede that the law does call for some sort of “public interest” to be served. The law does not define it. And by the discussion of a very limited amount of the public here, it certainly seems we cannot decide what “public interest” means. How do you propose to define it?

More to the point, I’d like my share of this supposed freedom of broadcast speech. Maybe a bunch of us can pool our shares and get Josh Marshall’s TPM-TV on the airwaves. :slight_smile:

Seriously, if there were a way to allocate shares of the broadcast frequencies among the citizenry, and allow us to sell or donate those shares to whoever we wanted, there’d be no need for the Fairness Doctrine. Those who wanted to put Michael Moore on the air, could do so; those who wanted to put Tom Tancredo on the air, could do so. Those who wanted to sell their share to Clear Channel could do that. And so forth.

Which is what we’ll essentially get, in 20 years or so, if net neutrality is preserved. But you know what they say about the long run.

A distinction without a difference, AFAIAC. So no prob.

Neither am I, actually.

I am old enough to remember what it was like with the fairness Doctrine in place. I liked it. It was sort of like point and counterpoint . If you saw a liberal talking one day the next brought a conservative. Ity was expected and I welcomed it. I would think after the first one ,how will the opposite side respond to this. We no longer get that .
Sunrazor is correct. All the media is profit oriented. However presenting the opposite side will not decrease profits. Corporations set the agenda to have their viewpoints dominate.

And what about the libertarian viewpoint? Or the socialist viewpoint? There are a lot more viewpoints out there other than liberal or conservative (and even people who go by those labels can’t agree what they mean).

And with the Fairness Doctrine, those in the government will get to determine which viewpoints are heard. This is just a thinly-disguised attempt by politicians to limit criticism of them.

Put them out there too! :slight_smile:

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Sorry, I got it confused with the 1972 reporting requirements, which were sweeping and draconian, and came out of a 1969 Supreme Court case (Red Lion v. FCC). That was a case inspired by an attack by a radio evangelist on an author. I *knew * liberals were involved somehow! The Fairness Doctrine was actually a softer version of the 1940s Mayflower Doctrine. Thanks, Tom, you sent me back to the textbook on that one.
[groan! whimper!] Haven’t you been paying attention, Max? I’m giving you guys this stuff straight out of my Masscom 101 lecture notes! Broadcasters are not interested in public discourse. We are interested in profit$. To make profit$, we need audience – hare, rating, Arb$, whatever – and to get the audience we’re willing to give away food and concert tickets, cross-dress and get dunked in tanks of water, even pretend that we care (a little bit, at least) about burning issues of the day. But it’s all a show. That’s what we do. We put on a $how. And you don’t need fairness to put on a show. If you want public discourse, subscribe to a newspaper. There are still a few of those around, I’m told.

Editing: OK, I just now saw **Capt. Amazing’s ** post. Sorry, I had my nose buried That is why they have to be forced to give opposing views. They will not do it on their own.

Well, there’s reading and there’s reading with comprehension.

Yes . They were practically booed off stage. They had record sales drop and they were afraid of losing their careers. Did it happen. For a while yes. But they apparently were good enough to make a come back.

Government guarantees time to air opposing viewpoint. It does not moderate the content. There is room for the Green Party and some others.