The one and only reason trump wants a wall is to hang his name and presidency on it. He doesn’t give one shit about anything but to be admired by someone. Anyone. The only good thing about Trumps election is that we have discovered just how many racist morons exist in the USA.
This will get obfuscated by his handlers into muddy swamp water. Some crony will tell trump the wall is done, he will look at some pictures declare ‘victory’ and move on.
Toddlers need to be told NO! If the toddler has a gun (or Presidential pen), you need to take a different approach.
<grumble> you for making me watch Tucker Carlson. There was absolutely no substance to that interview, Mark Morgan says the data shows that walls work but then doesn’t actually tell us what that data is. There is no substance in this clip, just an appeal to… I guess I wouldn’t call it authority, but certainly a lot of “I can’t possibly be politically biased, I worked for Obama! And was fired by Trump!” And yet…
He doesn’t actually have much experience in, you know, border security.
I started with the line “I suppose that depends on how you define “actual”.” If you’re defining it as “only things I agree are problems are actual problems”, well, that’s a bit circular, but ok then.
Barriers?! BARRIERS! Why would you refer to a 2000 mile wall in the plural?!?
Don’t move the goal posts by pretending like Democrats are opposed to fences in targeted areas. If a fence can be built, maintained, and **monitored **in the right place(s), that could certainly work for certain purposes. The wall is a different boondoggle entirely.
I got that impression from Pelosi saying “A wall is an immorality”. I didn’t realize that we were now parsing the moral differences between walls and fences. If “fence” is the word you prefer, let’s put up $5B worth of Israeli-style security fences and call it a day.
I’ve already provided the former Border Patrol chief’s interview in which he supported the idea. I got the complaint that “He doesn’t actually have much experience in, you know, border security” (which makes all the uninformed opinions on the subject by non-BP-agent Dopers rather rich, don’t you think?), but lucky for us, the Border Patrol agents have chimed in on the matter: Border Patrol agents overwhelmingly support Trump’s wall in new survey. Shall we leave it up to the experts then?
Where do you want these fences? What’s wrong with the fences we have already? What will get us the most bang for our buck? What is the targeted purpose of each proposed stretch of new fence? Present a plan and we’ll discuss the merits. So far all we have is 2000 miles of “steel slats”.
“A wall system in strategic locations.” What’s a “wall system?” Monitored fencing? So they think monitored fences in strategic locations, like we currently have, is a necessary component of border security!? What an amazing poll!
So we already have exactly what they’re asking for, why do we need $5B?