Does Trump have any kind of plan for the construction, maintenance and monitoring? So far it’s just “wall!” from him, as best I can tell.
Could you please ask him about it, next you meet?
Based on this post, is it a safe guess that you don’t know the difference between a 2000 mile wall and a few hundred miles of fence?
Did you read your link?
That’s way different than 2,000 miles of wall.
Where are you guys getting “2000 miles” from? President Trump is asking for $5B. I think we’d all agree that’s not going to build “2000 miles” of wall, right?
Where is he going to build $5B of wall? What’s the plan? Can you link to it?
We all agree?
Until Trump tells us exactly what he plans on doing with the $5B, we have no fucking idea what he thinks…and “…a wall or a fence, whatever you want to call it” just isn’t going to fly, because if we think that a wall and a fence are synonymous and that the money will be spent on fixing the fencing that is there, they we deserve to be played for the suckers y’all think you are dealing with.
No blank check.
GOP platform. (PDF)
pg 33
Along with numerous rantings at rallies.
Huh, I didn’t think they were dumb enough to actually put it in writing.
No matter what actually happens, Trump will claim victory, and the Republican base will believe him. It could be fencing, with 2 pounds of concrete at one spot and he’ll claim victory. It could be he gets .5% of the total cost of the wall and he’ll claim victory. It could be a bedsheets with “Wal” written on it, and he’ll claim victory. And the base will believe him.
Just read a fascinating bit on Twitter
Oh yeah, and at the same time try to claim: “What long wall? That’s just crazy talk!”
Any red hatted moron at a Trump rally envisioned a pink floyd wall stretching from sea to shining gulf. And at one point it got 10 feet higher, and orange lie boy lied about Mexico funding the atrocity. They ate that shit up, and now try to deny it.
I keep hearing that illegal immigration, in the form of people sneaking across the border, is a problem. I need more than that. The Rs told us over and over and over that cutting taxes improves the economy, and though the evidence does not support their claim, they keep repeating it. They claim to be for fiscal responsibility while being the party that consistently increases the red ink. They claim to be morally superior and repeatedly prove that they are not.
They are the party of repeat the lie repeatedly until people believe it because that is all the people hear, over and over again. So, I ask again, is there an actual serious problem that a wall would address? Because, based on their history of record bullshit, I have real doubts about the validity of that narrative.
I told you previously
Do you think people ignoring our immigration laws and entering the country without authorization or vetting is a problem? I do, but given your political persuasion, perhaps you don’t see that as a problem?
How big a problem kinda depends on the numbers involved, doesn’t it?
If three Mexicans a day enter the U.S. without authorization by crossing our southern border on foot, that’s a thousand a year. Nobody will even notice them. If 3000 Mexicans a day do that, that’s a million a year, and yeah, that would be a bit of a problem.
However, all evidence is that the number of undocumented persons living in the U.S. has steadily declined over the past decade. The flow of unauthorized immigrants into the U.S. is negative. I’m gonna say, that’s the antithesis of a problem.
Moreover, the typical undocumented person is someone who entered the U.S. legally but overstayed his/her visa, rather than someone who crossed the border on foot in the desert somewhere. More wall wouldn’t help with that anyway.
I’m not “trying to deny it”, but I don’t think it’s the topic of the current thread (titled “The five billion dollar wall”) or the source of the shutdown impasse. President Trump has requested $5B in this budget to “build primary wall or physical barriers in the areas of greatest need” (from a presentation the White House sent to congress four days ago). That’s not “a 2000 mile wall” like some here are pretending.
If illegal immigration caused problems Trump wouldn’t be telling lies about leprosy and smallpox and thousands of terrorists being stopped at the border. The right’s claims that a wall is necessary are not fact-based, and can be dismissed.
Well, being as they are coming here to work, and mow our lawns and pick our strawberries and clean our houses- they dont seem to be a problem.
I suppose a terrorist could sneak in, but why not just fly in with a visa, like they did last time?
What I understood was that that 5 billion is just the first payment,
As always, the number of lies that Trump uses toward his goal are bottomless.