The Float-Up Bar/Restaurant Shooter

The BBQ Pit
1

What The Ever-Loving Fuck! I’m shocked by this on so many levels. First of all, when on vacation near the water, who hasn’t taken a date to a nice seafood restaurant? The crowd is higher class, often a better vintage of wine is served. The seafood is fresh as usually there are docks nearby… and sometimes to local recipes are amazing.

Some of these places have (docks? slips?) in the back for rent… maybe with electric power, cable, nearby marina repair services, and even gasoline. Oh, to be wealthy enough to own a boat!

And boats Are expensive. They don’t call them holes in the water that you shovel money into for nothing. Sometimes the captains come in, makedeals to have the fish they’ve caught that day cooked for them, and they have a fine dinner. Sure, there might be a live band and people dancing in leisure wear vs designer dresses; I guess it’s nice to be rich.

Granted some of these places can be loud and raucous, serving way too many boat drinks to people who, at the end of the night, are just going to walk to their boats and sleep it off. Again, it’s nice to be rich… but by and large no harm is done by being loud and rich and slightly drunk. Jimmy Buffet made a nice career doing just that.

( No Pete Hegseth references please )

People have been doing this for years/decades/centuries in the US. So, Why-T-F would someone wealthy enough to own a boat float up to one of these places and open fire into the crowd…?

Jesus Fucking Christ, you’re already living in the wet dream of the top percentage of wealth. Why the hell would you throw that all away? Why the Hell would you murder people just trying to eat a nice dinner and have a good time…? I just don’t understand it. This wasn’t some mafia hit. Was it just ignorance and stupidity and entitlement? Was some insane person trying to live out their PT109 or Apocalypse Now fantasy?

I don’t understand this.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article312292081.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/28/us/north-carolina-boat-shooting.html

2

If the shooter was indeed “Nigel Max Edge”, as is being reported, he was a very, very broken person - traumatic brain injuries from military service.
Look at the transcript of when he sued the government and his parents recently …

it would not surprise me if they were among the intended victims.

3

OP, i think you are over-estimating how rich he is.

Apparently he changed his name from Sean William DeBovoise and you can buy his autobiography at Amazon:.From the blurb:

Sean DeBevoise learned early on growing up in New York State that he was bound to be a man of honor…After the attacks of 9/11, Sean knew that his only course of action was to serve his country. Joining the Marines, he found a mental and physical challenge that he planned to excel at. Although he sensed the behavior and many things said by fellow Marines to be disturbing, he willingly deployed to Iraq where he encountered a war-zone that would rip his body to shreds. Taking four bullets including one to the head, Sean’s life would never be the same, but it was the fact that all of this was at the hand of friendly fire that would provide the most crippling mental damage. Sean DeBevoise was nearly killed by his own Marines, and for reasons that are boggling to the outside mind. Putting the pieces together still today, Sean has come to realize that a dangerous web was woven between the US Marines, a hunger for honor, and jealously that traced all the way back to his family at home. Sean killed insurgents on that fateful day when he was locked in a warehouse and left to die by his own men. Returning home, the nightmare seemed to become even more horrifying. Although he has worked tirelessly to recover the use of his body and to reclaim his life from those who did everything in their power to take it from him, he still grapples with a mysterious story that the US military doesn’t want you to know…

So it’s possible he might be suffering from traumatic brain injuries from the war.

4

Nigel Max Edge, huh? Reminds me of a guy I knew as a teenager who had a fake ID stating that his name was John O Style.
Good luck flying under the radar with that.

5

Not knowing anything about the specifics of this incident …

Not all boat owners are rich.

There is a crowd of rather poor people who own raggedy-ass RVs and slowly migrate from cheap campground to cheap campground. Typically living on little more than working class SS or disability. Basically one notch above homeless.

There is a similar, yes smaller, cadre who own raggedy-ass boats and slowly migrate from cheap anchorage to cheap anchorage living on little more than working class SS or disability. Basically one notch above homeless.


But being crazy and hating the world has nothing much to do with how much money you have or don’t.

6

The crazy rich Americans who hate the world get elected as Republicans much of the time.

7

A lot more details have come out since I posted this at 10 AM ( and having to be out and about has kept me from catching up sooner) . I did not know he was a vet with severe brain trauma. The VA has really let vets down and that was before the Pedophile In Chief cannibalized it so he could steal money from it. I’m very selfishly upset because going to a nice dockside restaurant is one of the few pleasures on a vacation that I look forward to and ordering Halibut with some small scallops on the side seems to be a really shitty reason to die.

That and this isn’t even the biggest mass killing today…

8

But what is the connection between your future vacation and this past shooting?

America is awash with guns and lunatics and lunatics with guns. Nowhere is more or less safe than anywhere else. Aisle 6 at your grocery store or the car wash or you local fast food joint, or driving down some street. Gunfire can erupt from anywhere any time any place.

Safety for any of us is entirely down to numbers. Lots of us, few of flying bullets.

9

To have a life does mean having to risk some violence. My boss and his wife refused to go to Walmart after a Texas shooting. Their teenage daughter set them straight. “Our house is right next to Walmart. It’s just easier to shop there even with the damned bleeping gunfire.”

Something that bugs me about shootings is the politicians’ bland derision of shootings. They never get angry enough to curse in their responses. Perhaps they could get a little more feisty in their responses.

10

You’re right of course. It just shocked me… like someone re-writing the end of The Dark Knight Rises.

It’s where Michael Caine raises a glass to Christian Bale and Anne Hathaway…when suddenly bullets from an automatic weapon ring out… all three drop from their tables dead… and while people are screaming, “A Man and A Woman” by Francis Lai starts to play… and the credits roll.

It’s just so wrong on so many levels. Fucking Guns…

11

He got caught when pulling his boat out at a marina about 5 miles away. Pulling the boat out implies it was not exactly a mega-yacht. A little 20’ runabout can be less than the price of a decent used car is affordable for a significant portion of the population, not just the 1%ers

12

“Pray, dammit!”

13

Here is his boat. What is it worth?

14

You are right… and I thought I’d taken smaller sized boats into consideration. I thought of those really small ( not the right term; sorry for the insult ) row boat type boats with an outboard motor on the back. I had dismissed that class of boat ( wrongly ) because of what I remembered as a kid: balance issues. When fishing, you had to sit just right so as not to capsize the boat. I wrongly thought that firing a long gun in rapid succession while ( kneeling? ) and aiming might rock the boat and capsize it.

Special thanks to PastTense for showing me that it wasn’t a Boston Whaler or a cabin cruiser… nor a row boat with an outboard motor.

What’s it worth used? I can’t say, but new boats cost a lot. $20 - $25,000? Boat pricing is an expert’s game. I’ve seen files on 40-footers with purchase loans of $250,000.00 that were not under water ( Ewww… bad joke ) when they were bought Way back in the day.

15

Holy $#!t, that is a lot more than I would have guessed. A 22’ SeaHunt starts at $62,000 new…& goes up with options, though 30 seconds of Googling found one for sale < $25 thousand; which, like I said, is in the ballpark of a decent used car when the 2025 average price of a new car at $48,841

16

My older brother has a boat that looks similar. It’s not cheap, but he’s certainly not a one percenter. I found out about the shooting from my brother, who lives nearby. I asked him if he’d ever encountered this guy since they live on the same small island, but he wasn’t aware of seeing the guy. A friend of a friend had seen him fishing recently.

17

Look, I’m more than happy to admit that I’ve been out of that game since the ‘90s. What I remember about what a boat’s worth had so many variables. Some boats 2/3 of their value were in their engines. If there engines are shot, you sure can get a great deal.

Has the boat been maintained? Has the hull been fiberglass painted when it needs to be? Has it been dry docked and winterized before the first frost?

(Back in the day, you had to ‘winterize’ the engines of a boat by draining all the oil out of the engines and replacing it with a special chemical. It was because metal shrinks in the cold to a much greater degree than oil does… so if you don’t… ‘pop goes the diesel’).

Also, to maintain a good deck and hull condition, shrink wrapping the ship was recommended. Also, no matter what condition it’s in… just how much of that boat is still owned by the bank? Also, those boats need be insured. Banks insist on it… common sense too. The monthly upkeep on a boat that (even < $25 thousand ) could be Huge.

Captains hate losing their boats… hate losing the money they paid… so some would open the water cocks in deep water, let her sink, and try to claim the insurance as a ‘theft’.

Look, I’m sure a lot has changed from the 90’s and my Model-T memories likely have no bearing on on Tesla-modern boats. I just don’t have 2025 experience / information to either prove or disprove you.

18

Possibly 20 years ago we were on a golf trip to Wisconsin. We were wondering about the prices of the big motors we saw on all the trailered boats, so we stopped in a dealer and asked. The salesman said, “$100 a horse.” No idea if that was accurate then, or now.

19

Sounds pretty cheap.

20

It greatly depends on how old it is, which you can’t tell from the photo. It looks pretty similar to this one for under $12K.

https://www.boattrader.com/boat/2007-sea-hunt-triton-186-9900781/