300,000 at a minimum.
They can take a midnight plane going N-E-where…
(but here)
I liked the heckler who accused them of being hypocrites, Sarah goes and gets all sanctimonious and says something along the lines of American dying the Middle East to protect her (heckler’s) right to free speech, and then heckler is unceremoniously escorted out of the building by some of Sarah’s thugs.
Holy righteous fuck! If I wouldn’t see “Puppetry of the Penis” because it was fifty bucks, I can’t even imagine what kind of clown would lay that kind of money down for these two!
Um…
What?!?
How is he profiting? What does “money is fungible” mean in this context?
This is how “benefits” work. The presence of a star draws in money-paying people, and the profits go to the charity for whose benefit the event is being conducted. Sometimes the star wishes to benefit another charity, so he will donate his fee to that second charity. What the heck does “money is fungible” have to do with any of this?
This is an absurd allegation, driven by your obvious dislike of Beck as opposed to any actual wrongdoing. Beck has done nothing wrong here.
I would imagine he gets a flat fee rather than a percentage of the door or maybe some mixture of both. After all if the tickets don’t sell, he would still expect a big paycheck.
I understand very well what a tax write off entails but this memorial rally comes from a man who has complained about 9/11 survivors and from a woman who quit her job as governor to collect speaking fees and ‘write’ books. She sells pictures of herself to her fans and he established a college/fanclub of sorts.
Like FUCKING HELL they aren’t getting a paycheck out of this shit!!!
And wasn’t his Restoring Honor rally supposed to “raise money for the troops” as well? What’s going on with that and how much did the troops get?
They are entitled to call it whatever they like but others are WELL within their rights to think of them as tacky soulless money-grubbing slime.
There isn’t enough alcohol in the world to make me want to go and watch their act. They call themselves small government conservatives but they are narrow minded busybodies encouaging intrusive government and ignorance.
Interesting.
Problem is, none of those sentences contain a single reference to any actual money that Beck is getting. You do have lots of exclamation points, which admittedly is usually very convincing, but I will rebut those with the clever use of italics: you have provided no evidence that Beck is profiting so much as a nickel from this event.
I don’t know. Are we talking about that now?
I haven’t done any research into Palin’s finances here, so for the moment I am only defending Beck against the claim that he has financially profited. So if the charge is “tacky soulless money-grubbing slime,” then I have nothing to say about “tacky, soulless, or slime.” And he may well generally be “money grubbing,” but his grubbing doesn’t include a financial profit from this event.
Does it?
OK. I’m not here to encourage you to go. I’m here to encourage you to stop saying stuff that isn’t true. “Narrow minded busybodies encouaging intrusive government” OK, not gonna argue that one.
“…and ignorance?” Um, the one resolutely insisting on a statement that just isn’t true here is you. So much for your disdain towards ignorance.
Being a Canuck, I don’t really have a dog in this fight. I have to agree with Bricker, though - by all means, investigate the finances of both Beck and Palin. If they are as truthful with the IRS as they are when they speak in public, it shouldn’t take very long to come up with something that nails them. Until the damning forensic audit is released, however, asserting they have profited from events like these is the same as them asserting that Canada has health-care lotteries and death panels, i.e. partisan bullshit. Don’t fight witch hunts and lies with witch hunts and lies - leave that shit for the pigs to wallow in.
In my opinion, there’s much more to go on with all the inaccuracies, half-truths, exaggerations and lies that come out of their mouths on a daily basis.
Geeze, you people are cynical! Truth is, just like Beck’s rally on the anniversary of MLK’s speech, the fact that this one is on 9/11 is nothing but pure coincidence!
So whatever these two patriots get from this event, even if it’s not actual money but simple political gain, isn’t off the backs of 3000 dead. At least not intentionally!
I have no idea about how to quantify political profit, but I’m sure they’re getting some, and perhaps that’s ghoulish. On the other hand, perhaps they’d say that political profit will help place in power those who will best ensure that similar attacks don’t happen. Again, I don’t know and have very little way to weigh those claims.
Claims about money, however, are very measurable.
I would have thought that what they gained was attention and publicity, which could translate into money in other ways such as increased sales of books and advertising revenue for their shows. There’s no need to assume that they’re profiting directly without evidence of them doing so.
My initial thoughts as well. Le Ministre de l’au-delà makes good points too as does Bricker. But… if this event is all so altruistic, why the the $225 ticket fee?
Doesn’t mean it’s not goulish. Why are they trying so hard to make us think the date was coincidental? He is a degenerate liar, maybe?
To be perhaps clearer than I was when I said “nothing wrong,” Beck is not profitinh monetarily, directly, from this event. I’m not a particular fan of Beck and have no real desire to try defending his every move.
But at the same time, I think it’s fair – and I hope you agree – to not tar the man with charges that are baseless. So – ghoulish? I have no opinion. “Making a paycheck off of the deaths of 2977 American deaths?” That’s not true, at least of this event.
That’s how fundraisers are done. I assume when you hear about a benefit dinner for muscular dystrophy, you don’t get offended at people making a buck off a hideous, degenerative disease… do you?
I heard that there were over** 1.5 MILLION people in attendance!** There were people sitting on each others laps, and crowds extending as far as the eye could see! Satellite photos prove it!
Don’t listen to anyone else’s estimates - a Theatre guy told an usher who told a contracter who told my uncle that it’s all true!
What that means is that the fact that he chose to give that money to a charity doesn’t change the fact that he earned the money from this event. It was still money he earned.
By the way since when was this billed as a benefit? This was billed as a meet and greet for Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin. It wasn’t a charity where they donated their time. It was more like a concert but instead of music you got speeches.
The fact that you see nothing at all gruesome about this is, frankly, shocking.
I do agree that it’s not fair to not tar the man with charges that are baseless. However I didn’t accuse him of “making a paycheck off of the deaths of 2977 American deaths”. I accused him of being a liar which has demonstratively been proven true in the past.
I don’t know much about this event but the linked article didn’t call it a fundraiser. It was described as a “meet and greet”.
Question, do you really think was a fundraiser in the spirit of a muscular dystrophy fundraiser?
So… are you suggesting everyone would have been better off if he didn’t earn any fee?
'Cause I’m not really seing the win-win there.
I’m still trying to figure out what you do see wrong with it. Last year, I got people to pay me to do a 10K run (and I cheated them, since I walked much of the event). All that money was then donated to the American Heart Association. I didn’t realize I was ghoulishly profiting from the deaths of those claimed by heart disease – like an idiot, I thought I was helping.
Then I’m not contradicting you.
I was responding to Tapioca Dextrin and quoting Lightnin’. If your complaint is simply that he’s a liar, I don’t have much to say about that.
Yes.