The Grail

Great Debates
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Look, maatorc, you have dodged every question I’ve thrown at you and very close to all of the questions everyone else has thrown at you.

The board’s stated goal is fighting ignorance. This requires two things:

(1) Stating and explaining your thesis. You haven’t done so. The only evidence you’ve presented of religions being “anatomically-driven” is a couple of paintings. Please explain how Christianity, Wicca, the Norse pantheon or American Indian Shamanism are “anatomically-driven,” because we don’t see it.

(2) Having an open mind and listening to the other side. Personally, I feel that you’re just here proselytizing. You don’t appear to have any interest in hearing anyone else’s point of view. You just want to convert everybody to your belief system without even explaining what it is.

Unless you can do these two things, this thread is going absolutely nowhere.

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I’m not trying to play the junior mod here, but it is so simple to link to a specific post that this seems a little roundabout.

Not to mention that, one my end, there is NO post at 8:26 P.M.

In which post did he admit that he was lying about Christainity?

183

Probably just a sacred time zone ventricle. This post was 8:26 in my astral dimension: http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=483679&page=4

184

And to further clarify, that would be post #152.

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Let us go back to the essence of what I say.

There is a pre-existing, traditional knowledge system-myth behind the New Testament which is a legend to transmit this myth.

Likewise the Grail Legend characters, places, and events are all symbolic of this myth of occult human anatomy.

The ‘quest’ in the Grail is the ‘Sacred Marriage’.

The myth is that of human perfectibility. In the New Testament it is symbolically personified in ‘Jesus’, whose powers and attainments exactly agree with those of ‘Horus’ in the Egyptian Mysteries.

Hermeticism, Alchemy, and Kabala, transmit the myth.

In short, as some like to say: The proper study of Man is Man!

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Prove it. Prove that this myth exists let alone pre-exists. I mean actual evidence, not more unproven assertions.

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Actually, that is an interesting statement in post #152.

We know that the winning side of the battles in Catholicism did indeed exterminate, for want of a better word, a number of groups who followed alternate interpretations of doctrine.

Now if we can only get maatorc to name specific groups and explain why and how they were ‘occult-anatomy-based’ in ways that are different from the mainstream Catholic Church that ensued, think of how much farther we’d be.

How about it, maatorc? This is a subject that lends itself to specifics and we have a great many experts on the history and theology of the Catholic Church that would be able to follow any explanation you give.

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Are you saying the ‘events’ in the New Testament actually historically occurred?

189

Irrelevant. We known that the suppression of heterodoxy actually historically occurred. So you can address that on a purely factual basis.

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I am not questioning whether the NT is a myth. I am questioning your assertion that it transmits an older myth about the Great Work, Sacred Marriage, the pineal etc

191

You’ve not heard of the Secret Masters of the World, who have achieved true enlightenment?

You really need to get out more.

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I am saying the NT is a ‘legend’.

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You said

Prove to me the existence of the “traditional knowledge system myth” behind the NT.

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In summary, Maatork has continued to spew out nonsense, has refused to provide any foundation for it, has complained about the lack knolwedge of others participating in this thread, and has refused to provide his own credentials.

Colour me impressed.

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Hell, I’d be happy if he’s just tell us what the “pre-existing traditional knowledge system-myth” is, not to mention defining the Great Work and Sacred Marriage, and what they have to do with the third ventricle and the pineal gland.

But I’m not holding my breath. I suspect that monkeys will fly out of my butt before that happens.

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I’m reasonably sure the Great Work (also a term used to describe alchemy and referring to the perfection of man and/or the transformation of flesh to spirit) is the work of perfecting your astral self so that it can function independently of your physical body.

I’m still unsure what the Sacred Marriage is exactly

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I’m assuming that the Sacred Marriage refers to a joining of the pituitary and the pineal, at which point the astral body is perfected and may leave the physical body.

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Do you seriously think the great and knowledgeable writers of the Gospels would create a ‘fiction’ in a ‘vacuum’?

If this is so, the fact that the Gospels cannot be actual historical events means they dreamed them up.

The pre-existing knowledge system is well demonstrated in Horus and the Egyptian Temple.

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The perfection of the mental body, in the myth, is associated with the ‘Sacred Marriage’.

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Sure. If they felt like it. However, they had centuries of Jewish tradition to draw from.

okey dokey

No, it isn’t. Egyptian mythology is not my strongest suit. However, Horus was conceived when his mom reassembled Osiris (her brother by the way) and had sex with him. Horus was born and went off to kill his evil uncle Set. Contrast that with JC conceived of a virgin and Prince Of Peace. I am not seeing the parallels.

Show me Horus healing the sick, feeding the five thousand etc.