The Grail

Who are they?

What does meditation have to do with anything?

Meditation permits the yogic flyers to fly. By flying they unite the energy of the universe, causing goodness and light. At the same time, meditation provides the tantric aspect of ventricle porn, which again unitesthe energy of the universe, causing goodness and light.

In what way is Christianity, for example, focused on the human anatomy? And I will not accept your unsubstantiated statement that it is, either. Provide me with just one Christian doctrine which is focused on the human anatomy, preferably with documentation from an acknowledged Christian authority proving it.

Giving me the title and author of a book which you claim supports your theory is not acceptable proof unless you also quote the actual text.

It is the universal creative process of the human constitution, employed by millions daily, whether or not they have ever heard of you or religion or occult anatomy.

Where did I say that?

and that’s relevant to any of your unsupported assertions how exactly?

It drives the technique of the myth.

Here:

So, if doctrines and practices associated with legend based religions are anatomically driven and Christianity is a legend based religion then what specifically are some of the doctrines and practices of Christianity that are anatomically driven?

Eucharist does not count by the way, it is driven by the spirit and the joining of our spirit with the spirit of Christ by His word and by the symbolic consumption of His body.

You said this:

And in response to DocCathode asking you to explain how all mystical/esoteric practices are anatomically driven you replied:

Perhaps I misunderstood the first sentence of your original quote, but it seemed to me that you were saying that the doctrines and practices of all present legend-based religions are anatomically driven. Or does “occult-mystical-esoteric doctrines and practices” refer to only a certain subset of those religions? If that is the case, then you may explain what you mean by “occult-mystical-esoteric doctrines and practices” of Christianity, and limit your proof to only those Christian doctrines.

*eta - or what nd_n8 said.

He’s already admitted, in today’s post made at 8:26 P.M., that he was lying about Christianity.

You are right: A confusion of post references.

I am saying in reference to …All the occult-mystical-esoteric doctrines and practices…: associated with meaning behind or underlying as in the myth of occult anatomy.

You are lying as to statement and time.

Well, if I am deciphering your punctuation correctly, then you are excluding mainstream Abrahamic religions (whether those religions accept each other as from a common source or not) and quite a bit of mainstream Vedic beliefs (whether that belief currently recognises the authority of the Vedas or not).

So what is left? Certainly some animist and polythiest beliefs but I would imagine that most of them are spirit centered rather than body centered.

So your myth of occult anatomy is basically a doctrine binding radical and fringe groups outside of the mainstream. It also becomes physiocentric to the point of self worship over spiritual worship.

Of course we recoginse the weirdos and freaks out there, what do their commonalitys have to do with mainstream beliefs?

Are you, in some obtuse way, trying to suggest that mainstream belief systems are being manipulated by the fringe groups to some unknown ultimate end? Are you suggesting that the mainstream dogmas arose from the fringe dogmas and not the other way around?

Blah, blah, blah: Can’t argue with that because Ican’t pin down what you are saying.

More blah, blah, blah: Ditto.

Even MORE blah, blah, blah: Is this where I ask to subscribe to your newsletter? :smiley:

maatorc, I’m nearly as big a lover of the Esoteric and Incomprehensible as you, but I, if you will forgive me, see it as the FLAMING BULLSHIT it is. You have brought NOTHING to this thread except incoherent bullshit. I ask that you learn more about what you are trying to preach before you try it again. As it is, you are flinging non-sequiturs like you were freakin’ Sarah Palin, and that is not a complimentary comparison. Here, the standard request is, “Come back. Bring pie.” In your case I ask that you, “Come back. Bring cogent argument based on a thorough understanding of Western Mythology.”

Trust me: You are playing in the Big Leagues now and without that we will rip you a new asshole. The people so far have just been playing with you. Their claws are not out. Were that to happen you not only would not see what hit you but these people would leave you bleeding to death on the floor while their kittens continued to torment you. They know all about what you are trying to preach. They will eat you alive without SOME support for your beliefs.

1…All the main legend-based religions, Eastern and Western, are likewise myth sourced.
2…No, the myth is a knowledge system which is the true foundation of and tradition behind all the worlds legend-based religions.
3…The myth as such is not, although some individuals and groups exhibit an unbalanced approach to it.
4…Yes, there are many eccentric groups who are not genuine authorized outer groups or schools of the inner school who claim they are special and superior.
5…Fringe groups at all levels such as political, social, religious, are always trying to influence main groups: it just comes with the broad territory of our systems.
6…No, mainstream and fringe dogmas both arose from the myth.

1…I have seen no indication of an advanced knowledge of western mythology.

2…Many web forums have that opinion of themselves.

3…So far no-one has quite caught on to what I am saying.

Sorry, bro, but you’d be hard pressed to find a board where an “knowledge of western mythology” is more advanced than it is here.
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As a fellow crackpot I can tell you that THIS one is the one that has it right. You are really fucked bringing horseshit ideas here.

And does that make US wrong or does it tell you that you cannot explain your ideas to other people? Bro, here you will find some awful smart people, folks who can take bits of info incoherently presented and assemble them into a “theory” awfully close to what the presenter is trying to say.

Quit trying to force-fit us into your preconception of people who only THINK they are smart. Give us the data and WE will tell you where you are wrong and, if you are not a complete idiot, what you can do to assemble a theory you can defend. For now, assume there are people here who know a helluva lot MORE about the hogwash you are presenting than you do.

You keep using the phrase “all the main legend-based religions, Eastern and Western”; am I correct in assuming that Christianity is considered to be part of that group?

You say that “the myth of occult anatomy” is the “true foundation of and tradition behind all the world’s legend-based religions”. First of all, I haven’t seen where you have defined “the myth of occult anatomy” except for some references to the third ventricle of the brain which is somehow tied to “Sacred Marriage” (another term you haven’t defined). After you explain the myth of occult anatomy, could you explain how occult anatomy is the “true foundation of and tradition behind” Christianity?

As has been repeatedly pointed out to you, before we can discuss your beliefs, we need to understand what they are. So far, all your responses to requests for explanations have been repetitions of previously unsubstantiated statements and claims that we are misunderstanding those statements. The reason that “we haven’t quite caught on to what you are saying” is because you aren’t explaining it, you’re just repeating it.

I studied under Frye, hold an undergrad in classical mythology, and hold a grad degree that includes work in Arthurian legend.

Now show us your creds.