The Great Ongoing Aviation Thread (general and other)

Hasn’t ATC been chronically understaffed? Wasn’t one of the causes of the Washington, DC crash that there was only one controller instead of two?

It seems counterproductive to fire Air Traffic Controllers.

Stumbled on the longer (~1 hour) video of this world record water rocket flight (~1 mile):

Brian

Apparenty this pilot is from Australia and forgot which side is up.

Takeoff! Takeoff is when you go wheels up, not upon landing.

they’re not firing air traffic controllers.

Never mind

VASA air traffic control messages for the Toronto crash:

Here is a bit of video someone on the Delta Airlines plane shot while evacuating (AFAIK everyone on the plane survived):

There is a specific thread now for that crash:

As fascinating as it is to see an inside video, please never do this! Just get out of the plane and get out of the way; a half second delay whole you load up the video app can mean the last person behind you, or the last crew member, doesn’t get out. This person couldn’t have known everyone would make it, and the plane was *on fire". It worked out this time; next time, it might not.

Leave your bags, leave your phone, leave your passport. Just. Get. Out. Of. The. Burning. Aircraft.

But ticktock needs to know!!!

Phones have flashlights and are very useful in an emergency. Any phone loose on the floor is going with me.

It was daytime. The emergency lighting system should be on and is more than enough to see by under dark of night. The crew have flashlights at their stations.

In this hypothetical, you’d slow things down and possibly kill people.

But you do you I guess.

Just eyeballing the footage, it looks very similar to how the video on my Meta Ray-Bans looks. They have a camera on the glasses themselves. The passenger may have been wearing them already (in fact may have needed to be wearing them since they can have prescription lenses), and in any case, you can start video recording just by pressing a button on them (easily done even when hanging upside-down in a seat).

I’m not certain that’s what the passenger used, but the lens distortion and stabilization are very close, and I also have a hard time seeing how a passenger could crawl like that while holding a phone.

You may be right, perhaps I’ll give that a pass. It’s not technology I know anything about and I can’t imagine it’s very common.

But as a general rule? Get out of the burning plane!

Agreed with that on an individual level. Nevertheless–video like this must be extremely rare. Planes don’t typically have cabin cameras AFAIK. I think there’s value to the NTSB, etc. to see how things actually happen in a real evacuation situation. People reporting by memory only goes so far. In this case it looks like it was all smoothly handled despite the unusual situation.

I withdraw my comment and agree with your leave-things-behind message.

Meant to add: they’ve sold a couple million at this point. And there’s probably a high overlap between “people that fly a lot” and “people that can afford expensive digital glasses”. I’d expect pretty good odds that a typical planeload of people would have at least one passenger with them.

Arizona midair collision. 2 dead.

I read the account of someone who claimed to have been on board the Delta plane. He said that, once the plane stopped sliding, it was very quiet for a few moments. He and the guy next to him undid their seatbelts and were uninjured from the crash or the fall from the seats. While the flight attendants were helping some, it was mostly passengers assisting other passengers with the evacuation in a relatively calm manner. Given the ratio of passengers to FAs, this was not a critique of the FAs, just the way it was. He never saw the pilots during the evacuation or after. He description was very matter-of-fact. He did include that his seatmate tried to open the overhead (which was now underfoot) without success. That gave his account the ring of truth to me. BTW, if you are between me and an exit during an evacuation and stop to retrieve luggage or whatever, god help you.