The Great Ongoing Guitar Thread

Thanks for all the info on pickups folks. I was out of town when I posted and didn’t get a chance to respond.

I think I might get one of those Duncan PAF’s and give it a try. It’s kind of annoying that they only put a bridge pickup in that little guitar since I’m really a “neck pickup only” guy in my jazz playing.

Anyway, there is a expression my Brazilian wife occasionally says: “He who does not have a dog hunts with a cat.”, so when I’m out of town I’ll “hunt with a cat” and make do with my little travel guitar.

Sorry; I didn’t mention that it’s much more apparent with magnetic rod pickups (Strat-style pickups in particular) than it is with bar magnet pickups like P90s and PAF-type humbuckers.

No problems. You can see from the thread above I was trying to Mythbusters-style see if I could make bad things happen with my neck pickup’s interference, but I guess I was chasing a sprite that wasn’t there. No biggee, it’s just some time fiddling with a screwdriver, a guitar and an amp, which I don’t mind doing, it’s fun.

Since I’ve got you here: can you tell me any inside info on what I should infer about a pickup given the ohms resistance that companies like Duncan litter all over their descriptions of their pickups? See Duncan Tone Chart here. The obvious trend is that greater ohms=hotter. But there are anomalies in that table that don’t fit that rule, such as the Tele Alnice II Pro lead that has a lesser ohm-age than the Tele Alnice II Pro rhythm, where I’d expect the opposite given the “greater ohms == hotter” hypothesis. Anyway, I don’t expect a MSEE dissertation with charts and graphs, I’m much more curious about what Duncan or whoever is trying to tell me as a consumer when it gives me an ohms value for a pickup. Any quick guidance to a layman pickup shopper such as myself? Thanks!

There are options for attaching neck pickups without routing. Look for pickups for hollow bodied archtop guitars (“jazz boxes”). Even GFS has some. Google floating jazz pickup for more info.

Some of them are designed to attach to a pickguard, which is no good for you. But a surface mount or a neck mount should work on your traveller guitar without getting in the way of the oddly placed tuning keys.

If you’re a neck-pickup-only kind of player, you could remove the bridge pup and just use the floating pup. Doing that probably wouldn’t have much effect on sound, but would make the guitar a little lighter.

Well, the rule-of-thumb is that higher resistance = louder (“hotter”) but, as you have observed, it doesn’t always hold true. A few makers say that resistance ratings are meaningless and talk in henries instead… which is perhaps more meaningful to people who really understand hard science stuff but is a bit opaque to dilettantes like me.

The only advice I have is to stick with the rule-of-thumb for both of them. Higher numbers mean louder, unless there is some reason to conclude otherwise. Sorry I can’t be more help, but we’ve run up against the edge of my knowledge here.

Tuning is ADGCEa (5th up from standard).

I had looked at some of those, but they all appear to be just wide enough to get in the way of the tuners.
I might just try one of those pickups that has two arms that attach to the sides of the fingerboard, but even that would make a tedious tuning experience even more difficult. Maybe I can mock up a cardboard template for the size, just to see if it will really block the tuners or not.

minor7flat5, please check your PMs

GAS attack - oh, dear.

So I took ‘La Mouette’, my 1994 Seagull steel string in for an adjustment. I’m getting old, my friends, and I spend so much time playing a classical that I can no longer work with my steelie the way I used to like it. I used to have the nut and the bridge quite high, with high tension upper strings and extra high tension basses. That was also when I would play quite vigorously with a heavy pick and only occasionally do finger-style stuff. Sometimes, I’d beat the shit out of it playing Gypsy style.

Now, it’s almost all finger-style, and my left hand got too tired, so off to John at Ring Music. One of the things that’s really cool about John is that he makes you play for him for at least five minutes, then he takes the guitar and plays it himself, then back to you… By the time you’ve left, he has a very good impression of how you want the guitar to feel. One does not go into Ring Music without a fair amount of time to spend. It’s also a good idea to practice beforehand.

Anyway, that was just over a week ago. I went back yesterday to pick it up, and the difference is remarkable. The nut is cut a little lower, the neck is trued, the saddle had a millimetre shaved off to accommodate the pickup. I now have the D’Addario bluegrass strings, which are light tops/normal bottoms. And the instrument is beautifully responsive to finger picking now, light and easy on my left hand.

So as I’m paying up, I made the mistake of saying that I didn’t know when, but that one of these days I needed to get a 12-string, and that if and when I did, I had a couple of very specific ideas about how I’d like him to set it up. I’d like mine with a fresh cut nut and saddle so that I can have the bass strings ‘up’, ie closest to the ceiling, and I’d also like both the nut and saddle notched so that instead of the bottoms of the strings being co-planar, the tops of the strings would be co-planar. He said ‘That’s pretty easily done; I haven’t heard about the notches before, but Rickenbacker electric 12s were factory-made to have the lower octave ‘first’. I’ve just finished setting up Bruce Cockburn’s 12 string, and he wanted the lower octaves ‘first’ on strings 4-6, but the upper octave first on the G string.’

When I recovered from my fanboy swoon (Someone mentioned my name in the same discussion as Bruce Cockburn’s? I had an idea all on my own that Bruce Cockburn had thought of?), I said ‘That must be for his finger picking - that way, he’ll hit the lower octave first with his thumb on 4-6, and still be able to hit the lower octave first with his ‘i’ finger on the third.’ John looked at me for a moment and said ‘That’s it!’.

We then chatted merrily away for a while about the 12 string techniques of Bruce Cockburn (which I’ve yet to hear - he got a 12 as a present from a fan and only recorded with it last year. He’s since got another better one, which is the one John had been working on…) , John McLaughlin, Leo Kottke and Ralph Towner.

Then he said ‘It’s interesting, because (famous Toronto sports writer) bought a Guild 12 string a couple of months ago, and he’s decided to sell it. He’s just not a ‘12’ guy. It’s in mint condition; do you want to see it? He has to sell it for a few hundred less than he paid for it; it’s going for $1000. right now…’

The hour was 3:15 on the Friday afternoon of the Victoria Day weekend, and I needed to be home by 3:30 when the kids get home from school. Plus I had a car full of Ikea furniture that ideally would magically get into the house before they got home. I begged off, humbly and politely.

Ever since then, the iPod seems to shuffle its way to Ralph Towner; I keep thinking of doing one-string tremolos by moving my nail back and forth; would I reverse the two ‘G’ strings?; when do they open again after the weekend?; Classic Rock radio played ‘And You And I’ with the complete extended double-checking the tuning intro, then followed it up with ‘Supper’s Ready’… Okay, Universe, I get the message!

My friends, I got GAS so bad, I think I’m flammable!!!

Hey, lets get this thread boast again shall we?

Okay, so basically i want to inform that there are 3 options of mini amps that i think would suit your apartment perfectly:

  1. from Marshall : http://www.amazon.com/Marshall-MS2-Micro-Amp/dp/B000BVS7WQ
  2. from Orange : http://www.amazon.com/Orange-CR3-Micro-Crush/dp/B004OAOK76
  3. from VOX : http://www.amazon.com/Vox-AC1RV-Rhythm-Tabletop-Practice/dp/B004GVDVMI

I personally choose the orange because it has the guitar tunes and stylish.

Ghostwriter

Do any of you record to PC or use sequencing software?

I’d like to try recording some of my songs and want to do a moderately decent job of laying down backing tracks/vocals etc.

I opened up a separate thread since my question is not specifically guitar related.

Thread

Gosh; not much to add.

  • I don’t have experience with mini amps.

  • I don’t record stuff…I just jam.

  • **Le Ministre **- don’t know what to say. Sounds like a great opportunity if you can make it work…

I find those mini-minis wind up sounding pretty horrible. You really need to go up one level.

OK then you will just have to sit quietly on the sidelines until we find something for you to do. :smiley:

Recording may be my only chance to break out of the “just doodling” phase and improve my abilities. When I composed on a sequencer I really enjoyed the ability to make a mistake, erase a section, and then try different “fixes” until I got it right. I’d love to do that same thing only using my recorded sections instead of canned sound samples.

I don’t have enough material to drag my guitar out in front of people and play for any decent length of time so making a song here and there and recording it may be the next best option.

Its not that I’m too shy to perform, I’m just plain lazy.

(god, posted too fast)
Wordman can vouch that an AC5 sounds perfectly reasonable for random playing.

Hey, Wordman, something I was meaning to ask. You called the Creamsicle equal to a MIM. One thing I’ve never really known is how you can tell the difference, on a playing level. The internals of the guitar are rough, but where are the spots it falls down on, compared to an AmeriTele?

Just the fact that I went back at all tells you everything you need to know about what’s going on with me. The $1000.00 price includes the case, and it has a pickup, which I’m about to test with my shitty Crate amp. This would involve a re-arranging of priorities, eg. I’ll have to rent a good amp for the few times when I actually need one rather than buying one, which was actually next on the equipment list.

I also think I’ll have to sell Lorne, my 8-string. Of all my guitars, it’s the least useful - the neck is just too narrow to comfortably accommodate 8 strings. I’ve used it as a bass more than anything else, and I’ve yet to get comfortable enough with it to play it in public.

Still experimenting, but even in its rarely played condition, it has a lovely tone and sustain. I may just have to do this…

Sounds like you are thinking it through in a very reasonable way - the fact that you are considering a trade-out makes it clear that you aren’t just looking to indulge in G.A.S.

FYI, here is a thread on the Acoustic Guitar Forum which includes a list of the top 10 musician-gear/guitar-focused message boards online:

They started this thread to show that the AGF was on the list, and no surprise that Harmony Central, the 4Chan of music websites, is on there for the sheer size of it. But it was interesting and good to know that the AGF, Gear Page and Tele-centric TDPRI were on the list, as was the Gibson message board. Since this is in line with my impressions, it was good to see that my gut was in line with the actual numbers…

Enjoy.

Hello, everyone - say ‘Hello’ to Ralph.

Yep, I bit. I just got Ralph back from Ring, where John and Lowell just finished cutting the nut and saddle for me. Now, I have to balance spending time sorting out how to use a 12-string vs. not playing my fingers into hamburger.

I have notches in the saddle to bring the tops of all the strings into the same plane. I’ve reversed the 4th, 5th and 6th courses of strings so that my thumb hits the lower octave first, but my ‘i’ finger hits the lower octave first on the 3rd string.

And I’m totally not used to finger-picking on a 12 - I have to learn how to get both strings at the same time without accidentally catching the next string along. I also have to learn not to barre, and how to lift the LH fingers when shifting so I don’t accidentally pull off or damp another string.

I’m still deciding on whether to keep the pick-guard or not. On the whole, I think I will keep it. Not so much to protect the top, but I think I’m going to borrow some of my son’s model paint, an eraser shield and his thinnest brush and put tiny lines perpendicular to the strings to mark where the hypothetical 24th, 28th and 31st frets would be for the harmonics.

On the other hand, that’s a beautiful blonde stretch of soundboard…

Ralph?