The Great Ongoing Revolving Speakership of the 118th Congress {Mike Johnson is new speaker as of 2023-10-25}

Yeah.

Now electing Jeffries would fix that; he’d be able to just ignore them. And if he promised to make all the committees 50/50, I expect he’d keep the promise.

But I doubt there’s even – how many would be needed? only 5 – I doubt there’s even five Republicans ready to negotiate to vote for that.

There weren’t even 10 righteous men in all of Sodom, so.

Jordan is now threatening to primary any Republican that votes against him. That could nudge enough moderates elected in Biden districts (there are 18 of them) to say fuck it and vote with Democrats. It’s not like that is impossible; eight Republicans voted with Democrats to remove McCarthy in the first place.

Gift link.

I don’t know – I fear that Russ Vought (who I loathe) in that article may be right. Jordan won’t follow Scalise’s lead and bow out rather than force a bloody showdown on the floor. And it puts Republican “moderates” elected in Biden districts in a bind. Even if they survive a contested primary, they can’t afford to alienate Republican base voters so much that they stay home on the general election day.

Already shared upthread in post 197.

But it bears repeating what a POS Jordan is I guess…

This is pretty much exactly what I’ve been saying in this thread (and fretting about) for the last several days.

They don’t have to worry about getting re-elected, because no matter what they do, that’s not happening. Barring some kind of Kobayashi Maru maneuver, they might as well do the right thing, because their politics have failed them.

So they’re afraid they’ll lose their seat, but they don’t know if it will be to someone to their right or their left?

“I didn’t expect the face-eating leopard to eat my face!”

I said this in another thread around here - this is the “government can’t do anything right” the Republicans have been whining about since Reagan. The Democrats are apparently too functional, so now the GOP says “hold my beer!”

Please, now… we do not know that.

One whole year from now, in this insane political environment we may be on the road to another squeaker that a “lite-conservative” can gamble on riding and coming through.

Some leaked commentary from the latest Republican meeting:

Jordan is becoming more like his orange BFF every day. I’m just surprised he didn’t threaten to shoot up the homes of anyone who opposes him. If this jacketless wonder actually does win the speakership it will be yet another very sad milestone in the decline of America.

I don’t think that’s a given at all. If there’s one lesson Republicans have taken from previous debt limit crises, government shutdowns and their other efforts to blow up the government, it’s that voters blame them in the moment then rapidly forget about it. These “moderates” may calculate that it’s better to just get this Speaker chaos over with and off the front pages. Then they won’t have to worry about an attack from their right and can find one or two wedge issues where they can break with the party leadership to demonstrate their “independence.”

Sure they have a narrow path to reelection, but that’s always been the case just by the nature of their districts. They’ve shown that they can win in these districts running as Republicans, and there’s no reason to think they’re doomed now.

CNN says Gymbo doesn’t have the votes.

This might work.

I’m free this Thursday.

Monday’s anytime from 1 - 4pm will work for me.

Hoping this holds.

And a GOP member hints at a bipartisan option:

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4257216-turner-if-gop-cant-elect-speaker-then-deal-will-have-to-be-done-with-democrats/

Two-party rules in a three-party world will end in lots of tears.