Not likely. While the argument that your hypothetical challenger makes would be entirely accurate, its a bit too strategically minded to be comprehended by the GOP primary audience. To win them over the answer is always to move further towards far right purity. So even if in the end it hurts her party big time, as long as she can say that she stood up against a Democrat supported RINO speaker she’s golden.
Where its going to hurt is with any Republicans who support Johnson. Those are probably going to be swing state Republicans whose districts are competitive and so are possible Democratic pickups. They will be cast as a Democrat enabler which will hurt them in their primary, and may also convince some of their base to stay home in the general.
The same could theoretically be true for certain Democrats who vote for Johnson, but since I haven’t heard a lot of condemnation from the far left on Jefferies’ decision to support Johnson (probably because they understand that getting a liberal speaker is a pipe dream) it seems as though it will be minimal.
She might be surprised to learn that supporting a Christian would be fine with many, if not most, Democrats. And Dems don’t categorically and universally demonize Republicans the way Pubs do Democrats.
True, but the hypothetical “More MAGA than Margie” candidate won’t be constrained by our tendency to stick to making good arguments. They’ll have one ad campaign for the smart people that lays it out in detail, and then another “Loser Empty Greene lost! Don’t vote for that loser who lost! What are you, a loser too? You gonna cry about loser Greene losing again?” campaign.
She is not surprised by that. In fact, she uses that as one reason Johnson needs to be removed. That he’s actually acting as the Speaker of the House and not Speaker of the Freedom Caucus.
AFAIC, I no longer see much difference between “Republican” and “the worst of MAGA.” If someone is voting for Republicans in general elections they’re enabling MAGA, no matter what their beliefs or motivations are. So what’s the difference?
We should start a pool.
How many nay votes on the motion to table or aye votes on the motion to vacate (whichever comes first) will there be. I’m thinking about 30 but even that might be high.
MAGA love a loser. They love Trump. They love the Freedom Caucus, even though they’ve gotten rolled on every single thing they’ve tried to accomplish. They love Kari Lake, even though she lost the AZ governor’s race. They love the Capitol insurrectionists, even though they failed to stop the electoral count.
They don’t mind if you lose as long as you’re fighting. And that’s what MTG is doing with this motion to vacate.
The first (and only) vote will be on the motion to table, with an “aye” vote keeping Johnson in the Speaker’s chair. I’ll say 50 nays. It’s essentially a free vote for any Republicans who want to appease their right flanks, since they know Johnson won’t be removed. I also think there will be some Democrats who buck their leadership on this one.
My guess is it’ll be 10 to 15 votes to get rid of Johnson. It’ll be the usual crowd on the Republican side like MTG, Boebert, Beavis (Jim Jordan) and Butthead (Matt Gaetz). For the Democrats it’ll be AOC, Ilhan Omar, and maybe a few others on the far left.
Never underestimate the power of stupidity- and the power of a stupid person grandstanding. Remember, her house seat is in doubt.
This is georgia- they have over 200 memorials, statutes, etc to the CSA losers.
Well, umm err- blushes- since every MAGA accusation has been a confession, I have said there might be a MAGA owned pizza parlor with some very unpleasant things going on.
How many nay votes on the motion to table, or aye votes on the motion to vacate (assuming these will be approximately the same) do you think there will be? (You have to round your estimate to the nearest poll value. Sorry, Too many Representatives for Discourse)
