The Hangover 2: Seen it thread (boxed spoilers)

Regarding your point 2:

I don’t think either is ruined. It was the ring finger from his right hand. The right hand just moves the bow, the left hand does the fingering, so he should be able to play the cello just as well as before. And since he hasn’t yet started med school yet, he’ll only ever learn to do surgery while missing a ring finger, which isn’t that important in the world of surgery (missing an index finger or thumb would be damn hard to get around, a middle finger a little tricky, but a missing ring finger shouldn’t be too hard to adapt to.)

Do we still need spoilers? At any rate, I liked this one, probably because it was a re-tread of the first, which I loved. I liked all the callbacks to the first, like another song by Phil, the old man as a baby substitute, and the monkey as a tiger substitute.

If they do a third, I’m guessing it would have to be Alan’s wedding…he meets some nerd-girl online who’s as weird as he is, or something.

Eiter that or Phil’s wedding fails because of his demon semen and it’s him again…though I imagine if they do a third one, they intentionally black out because it’s tradition, or something.

i liked it a lot better than the original. the tiger was wacky. the monkey was perfect.

another sequel where alan gets married AND roofies everybody is inevitable. i’ll probably end up watching that one too… and liking it more than the original also.

I went to imdb.com and one of the news blurbs I read stated that the script for Hangover III is being written right now, due to the big box office returns for Hangover II. I wonder what the location will be this time, maybe Salt Lake City or the Vatican? What kind of debauchery would the guys find there?:smiley:

Is Bill Clinton really in it? (I know he doesn’t ‘act’ in it and isn’t a character, but it was kind of up in the air whether footage made of him in Bangkok during the shoot would be used.) Feel free to box if you feel the need.

He’s not in the movie and is never hinted at being in the movie. I assume the idea was to show footage of him reacting to…

the riot that Stu and Teddy start

Otherwise, I don’t know how he could have been shoehorned into the movie.

Oh, that was terrible. Glad my hypnotist erased it from my memory. Also my ability to count, but who cares.

I thought of a good one while watching it. Know why Chris Farley is better than Zach Galifanakis? Chris is dead! :smiley:
Was I the only one hoping for Alan to get shot by someone?

And where exactly did the guitar on the boat come from so Stu could attempt to sing again? Magic?

Liked the first one a lot. This one was awful.

I was dragged along over the weekend, I didn’t exactly find the cheap laughs so entertaining, but I didn’t exactly enjoy the first film. So, eh.

The first one was great and I loved it, it was a completely new and refreshing take on the guy comedy. It brought back stuff that was great in the 80s and 90s. Part of the appeal of it was that for most people it was completely unexpected in a sea of Adam Sandler and Ben Stiller movies.

This sequel was the exact same movie and I think it was just as good. This is a double edged sword, first they didn’t try to reinvent themselves for a sequel nor did they simply add a dozen characters and make it an order of magnitude loonier like so many failed sequels do so that’s a big mark in it’s favor. On the flipside it’s on the predictable side, some movies can survive predictability but comedies based on the shock factor really can’t. This issue was compounded by the marketing firm going out of their way to spoil SO many of the jokes in the trailers and commercials.

Long story short, I thought the movie was still very enjoyable but it wasn’t “special” the way the first was. Had I not seen a single preview I suspect I’d have enjoyed it twice as much.

He was never actually in it as I understand it. He was in Thailand for an unrelated reason when they were filming and rumors got reported as fact.

So the wife and I just watched it today. We both liked the first one, and we both liked this one. Being so familiar with Bangkok made it all the more fun. Some random thoughts:

Although it’s never identified specifically in the movie, the place where the wedding takes place is Krabi province, down South on the peninsula. It’s even more beautiful in real life than it looks in the film, and it looks pretty darned good in the film. However, it’s on the Andaman Sea or Indian Ocean side of the peninsula. So travel between there and Bangkok by boat would entail going all the way around Malaysia and Singapore. Even if it’s not supposed to be Krabi for purposes of the story, you only get those limestone-cliff formations on that side of the peninsula, not the Gulf of Thailand side. And even if you pretend it’s actually on the other side of the peninsula after all, there’s no way you could travel between there and Bangkok by boat and be there before, say, daylight. Certainly not in time to have had a night like that. However, we just accepted it and went with the flow, but a lot of local film critics seem to have taken great exception to this distance factor. (The Beach was also filmed in Krabi province, but not on the mainland; on one of the islands offshore.)

In the part where Alan insists that no seafood from the local fishing village could possibly be as good as Long John Silver’s, the Thai subtitles here had him saying it could not be as good as Jay Ngaw. Jay Ngaw is a local seafood chain. We can only assume they slipped that in because no one in Thailand has ever heard of Long John Silver’s, but why Alan of all people would be singing the praises of an obscure local seafood chain is a mystery.

There are several shots of our condo building in the film, when they’re doing aerial shots of Bangkok. We live in a 36-story tower that is rather distinctive. And it’s actually one of four 36-story towers grouped together. We got caught up in looking for our building!

The scene of bar destruction, where they find Stu’s tattoo artist, is in a small lane called Sukhumvit Soi 7/1, one of the quieter of our red-light districts. The White Lion Bar is actually a nice little place called Boosabar, and the Brit owner is very nice. There are no tattoo parlors in this soi (Thai for “lane” and commonly used in English conversation), but there are plenty in the area. They filmed there for about two hours one day and paid all the bar owners handsomely for their time, since they had to close. Those were a happy bunch of bar owners too, I’ll tell ya.

This is the scene where Bill Clinton was supposed to have done a cameo. Imdb.com verifies he did visit the movie set. (He was here in Bangkok speaking on alternative energy at Escap, a UN organization with a Bangkok office.) The local press reported at the time that he had made a cameo. A friend of mine reported at the time in the English-language press that he had made a cameo. I’ll have to ask him why everyone screwed that up, but I’m wondering if maybe they did do a cameo, and then someone decided that this maybe was not a good dea and got it canned.

The Siam Sam’s sign appeared outside of Cactus Club in Soi Cowboy, arguably our top red-light district at the moment. Cactus is owned by an affable fellow American named John, who hails from Missouri. However, the interior was actually Tilac Bar right across the way. Tilac is the largest bar in Soi Cowboy, three shophouses wide, and the only bar with two entrances. I’m not sure why they could not have put the Siam Sam’s sign on Tilac Bar, but John got paid pretty well for putting it up on his place. They filmed there about 6am one morning. I recognized some of the girls in that scene even though they were wearing more clothes than they normally do.

The LeBua Hotel is a real five-star place, and the outdoor Sirocco does sit atop it just like in the movie. (And you can see our condo not too far away, heh.) But there is no “Chiang Mai Monastery” right outside of Bangkok. Those are not Thai monks’ robes, monks don’t beat people up with sticks, and there are no vows of silence with any local sect. I figure they probably had to change the robes to the style worn in South Asia, say in Nepal and Bhutan, in order to have the script approved by the government. In some of the street scenes, you can see saffron-yellow-robed monks walking around, and that’s what they realy look like here.

The bride and her kid brother are not Thai in real life, but their parents are very well-known Thai actors. The actress playing the mother can’t speak English very well, and since the characters are supposed to be living in the US these days, I guess they had her speak only Thai to her husband so her lack of proficiency wouldn’t seem odd. I just learned that Teddy, the kid brother, is the real-life son of Taiwanese director Ang Lee.

Myself, I have had, heh, “a few” hangover-style nights and even weekends. I know very well the feeling of waking up someplace in Bangkok and wondering, “What happened and where the fuck am I?” Although they did not involve ladyboys. (Really. No, really, they didn’t.) Those were back in my salad days though, and I take it a lot slower in my old age, especially since getting married. But I think it was not once, but twice in the movie where someone said of young Teddy:“Bangkok has him now.” The wife and I looked at each other and laughed knowingly, heh.

We enjoyed the film and are looking forward to #3. :smiley:

neat little bits of trivia there SS. appreciated.

I enjoyed it quite a bit. You pretty much have to know what you’re getting into and just go with it. It’s a fun ride, and I actually think it was the right decision not to stray from the original premise, which is what made the first one work.

That said, it’s certainly not for everybody. There’s not much point arguing the merits of a film like this. It’s one of those you either like or you don’t. No big deal.

A small quibble:I was really wishing that the blackout had turned out to truly not be Alan’s fault. He’s a deeply flawed, even damaged, character, and as such I wanted to have more sympathy for him. But when he admits that he drugged the marshmallows and Stu attacks him, I thought, “yeah, I’d want to beat the shit out of him too.” Not that they ever pretended to delve too deeply into the characters, but I think Alan deserves a redemption, and he didn’t get one here. (Maybe next time!)

I agree with this 100%! I was really hoping that he wasn’t the reason, but then they went right back to that. Boo!

The original movie was funny, but I think my problem was that I waited to see it until after I had heard weeks and weeks and weeks of praise about how it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Finally seeing it. . . meh. I mean, it wasn’t as hysterical as it had been hyped to be.

And you know, I’ll say that Alan was straight up unlikeable in the sequel. A loveable dofus who suddenly is not even remotely likeable. Though I have to admit: I totally laughed at his “I LOVE LABRADORS” sticker on his computer and then his lab tshirt. :smiley:

I also agree that I was a bit uncomfortable at all the giggling, cackling, and sneering in the theater when Stu’s. . . hijinks were revealed. One thing that did kind of leave me a bit concerned was:

Alright, so he had unprotected sex with a rent boy/prostitute/etc (since the guy came in his ass). . . then presumably went and had sex with his wife on their honeymoon? HIV AIDS much?

I do have to say that Chow had the funniest lines in the movie by far.

[spoiler]
Phil: Your password is bologna1?
Mr. Chow: Well, it used to be just bologna, but now they make you add numbaaaaaaaaaaas.

and

Mr. Chow: Sometimes when you snort coke, your heart stops and starts up again. Read a book![/spoiler]

I seriously almost choked on my soda at, “Read a book!” :smiley:

I had the exact same thought.

[spoiler]I kept wondering how many diseases he may have caught, and if he was ever going to get any kind of test. It’s pretty dickish to be fucked in the ass by a transsexual Thai hooker and then continue to have sex with your wife without her knowing. Who knows what she’s now exposed to.

Also, it was completely obvious that all those women were going to turn out to be men. A bar of beautiful ladies in Thailand? They’re gonna have dicks. So I was expecting that the second I heard they were even going to **be **in Bangkok.[/spoiler]

I asked my friend who reported it in the Bangkok Post newspaper. He insists a cameo with President Clinton was filmed but admits he did not see made with his own eyes. (Clinton did visit the movie set though. Even Imdb agrees on that much.) He says the version we’re seeing here is 12 minutes shorter than what you see in the West, and he just figured the Clinton cameo was part of those 12 minutes. I told him if it’s true, it’s apparently been cut in the West too.

I figured from the beginning it was the marshmallows, especially after they said it was Alan’s idea and even more so after it became apparent it was not the beer.

Au contraire! I can take you to many, many bars in Thailand full of beautiful ladies and not a dick to be had. The girls in the bar scene are real bargirls, many of whom I recognize. The scene with the ladyboys was filmed elsewhere, as that is not what the back of that particular bar looks like.

And Aha! This just sent to me:

The backroom scene itself with the ladyboys was actually filmed in Los Angeles! See the report here. I did not know that. But being chased through the streets by “ladies” of the night? Hmmm. That must be in the 12 minutes that were cut for the Thai market. Will have to look at the DVD when it comes out.

Meanwhile, CNN has a good article [here](And Aha! This just sent to me:) detailing the different locations used. So that was the Ancient City they used for the Chiang Mai Temple. We were trying to figure out where that could be.

About a third of the way down, where it shows the Song Wad Road Roundabout in Chinatown, where the monkey does his drug dealings in the film, do you see the building on the left, the one with the big white sign for a lapidary company and gem center? That big white sign is always lit up at night just like it is in the film. Sometime in the early to mid-20th centrury, my father-in-law, who would be in his 90s now if he were still alive, had some sort of office in that building when he was first starting out. It wasn’t a gems building back then. Not sure what he was into at the time, but he eventually settled into rice exports.

I saw it last weekend…was it recreating the old pic, or just…more or less what it looked like? (can’t work spoiler box.) I thought the photo was hilarious, but, I just thought it was their hijinks, and not any amusing recreation of an iconic picture!

Best wishes,
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Chow was in the exact pose. It was intentional.

Yes, it was an amusing re-creation of this iconic picture.

Imdb shows a 2014 release sceduled for Hangover 3.