The Illinois "Open Road Tolling" Was An Incredibly Bad Idea

I just returned fom one of the most greuling driving experiences I have ever had. Scratch that-- It was the worst driving experience I have ever had, and I’ve been driving cross-country since I was a kid.

I have to admit I was deeply impressed. Never have I seen incompetence writ on such a grand scale. It was truly spectacular-- the final stages of an incredibly Bad Idea which manages to ruin an entire state. My husband voiced the opinion that “Open Road Tolling” must have been conceptualized by monkeys, but I disagree. It was the work of the Antichrist.

See, Route 90 is a Northern passage across the United States. Following this single interstate freeway, you can travel across a good portion of our great land. For those Dopers who are not familiar with the American road system, interstate freeways are massive highways, often of three or even four lanes going in either direction. Their appeal is that the speed limit is generally higher, and there’s no stopping unless it’s for gas.

Some of the states designate their parts of this road as toll ways, meaning that you pay a nominal fee based on the distance you’ve traveled. You get a ticket when you enter the freeway, and pay the toll at the exit you use. Toll roads are often less crowded, limited access (which means less slow-downs from lane changes and merges) and generally well-maintained.

Some corknut in Illinois desided to fix a system which wasn’t broken. They have this new “Open Road Tolling.” This means that the toll booths are in the center of the freeway every few miles, meaning freeway traffic has to come to a complete stop and pay the toll.

When you look at the pictures of what it will look like when finished, you see a few cars breezily coasting into the tolling booths. It looks smooth and streamlined, the art has a cosy, vaguely 1950-ish feel. You just know those cars are going to be on their merry way in but a brief flicker of time, off to explore the majestic vistas of our lovely land. Reality is a bit different. Sitting in the sweltering heat at a standstill behind hundreds of other cars waiting their turn to pay the toll, I had a lot of time to look at that picture, and envy the chemical enhancements that must have brought this vision to the mind of its conceptualizer. That must have been one hell of a trip.

The first flaw in this premise is, obviously, the fact that the freeway traffic all has to come to a stop to pay the toll, thus negating one of the major reasons people choose to use the interstate freeways. The I-Pass system seems to have been a half-hearted effort towards alleviating this, but when I inqured about buying one at a travel oasis, I was told that a pass was fifty bucks, cash only. Considering I was only in Illinois as long as it would take me to travel* out* of Illinois, fifty dollars seemed a bit excessive. I imagine many travellers would feel the same way, and thus, a majority of the road’s users are going to have to go through the cash tolls.

But even the I-Pass system didn’t help matters, because traffic was packed for miles behind the tollbooths, and they couldn’t even get to where the road widened to allow I-Pass users into another lane.

Yes, I said “packed for miles.” I do not exaggerate. At seven PM on Sunday night, I crept along, stop-and-start behind a line of cars which wound out of range of sight. I was at that particular toll for 45 minutes. Every toll took at least fifteen minutes. I don’t even want to talk about Chicago.

The signs promise that this will all magically vanish once construction is done, to which I have to shake my head in astonishment that anyone ever bought that line. One of the tollbooths at which I sat for twenty minutes was fully operational-- it just couldn’t process cars fast enough to avoid a traffic jam. It’s uttrerly impossible that they ever could.

When we passed Gary, Indiana, a miraculous change took over. Traffic became smooth again, soaring along with cheerful disregard for the speed limit. I think we were all a bit giddy from the heady sensation of being able to drive after putting along at golf-cart speeds through an entire state.

Yes, I said an entire state. The parts of the road upon which traffc flowed as God intended were so rare as to be forgotten. I remember the entire state being one of steering-wheel pounding, screeching, near-to-tears frustration. It took us twice as long as it should have to get through it.

I felt like casting myself from the car and kissing the earth of Indiana. We passed through one booth, claimed our ticket, and sailed through the state unhindered until we reached our exit, paid the toll and drove away, thanking God that someone who had higher than the brain-power of a retarded yak had designed exit tolling.

I feel your pain. I ventured through Chi-town a few weeks before the road construction started and could feel the disturbance in the force. Who in the world created this nonsense called “open road” tolling? If there is anything it isn’t is open road. The Indiana system makes complete sense to me. You pay the toll at each end (and at the on/off-ramps in the middle) and you drive. Period.

Hopefully you won’t have to go back the same way you came.

What you are describing is not “Open Road Tolling” so please stop using the term. What you are describing is what the toll system used to be like around Chicago. It’s still like that at I-90, because they are still working on the tollway at the I-90, I-294 intersection.

With “Open Road Tolling” you don’t have to stop at tollbooths at all. The highway continues on at all lanes, full speed and the toll gets paid through the I-pass Anyone who doesn’t have an I-pass has to pretty much exit the highway onto a separate highway to access the toll-booths.

Oh, and if you don’t have an I-pass you get to pay twice as much. Sucks to be the person just driving through I guess.

I drove through on I-90 last week. I hate driving in Chicagoland (beginning at Rockland and ending at Gary). They mug you every few miles and it takes for-freaking-ever.

I did.

It wasn’t as bad on the way there. It was just a huge pain in the ass on the way there. On the way back, during the weekend, it was agonizing.

That’s what all the signs along the way called it, so I’m going with that terminology.

“Just driving through” describes most of the travellers. Most of the license plates around me were from out-of-state. Yeah, the locals will get a break, but not what seems like the majority of users.

If they did the I-Pass the way I’ve heard some states have done it (i.e your tolls are automatically charged to a credit card after you sign up) it might reduce the problem. I was willing to do that, but when I discovered it was a flat fee that exceeded by several times what I would pay manually, I didn’t buy one. Added, of course, to the fact that the I-Pass users were crammed in behind the rest of us. That of course, may change once they get it done, but I’m not really betting on it. I imagine those “seperate highways” could get clogged pretty fast, leading to the kind of gridlock I experienced if they back up into the traffic lanes.

I have to admit, Lissa, based on my experience driving through one of the open road toll plazas while it was under construction, I was in the same place you are…and I had to do it every day. It was agonizing. I cursed the toll authority every single day.

But, when my toll plaza was done, the difference was…amazing. Traffic literally does not slow down, unless it is backed up anyway. Many days, I drive through at my normal highway speed…never even tap the brakes. The non-I-pass people do have to go through a regular toll booth, but it is never more than maybe 10 cars deep.

For some reason, you do have to pay $50 to get an I-Pass (which you can get online with a credit card…can’t speak for buying it in person.) $10 of it is a deposit on the transponder, and the rest is all toll credit. Subsequent tolls can be charged automatically to your credit card (this is what I do). You can return it at any time and get a full refund for both the deposit and the unused tolls. It sucks that the person you talked to obviously did not explain this to you.

I should have included this cite from the Illinois Tollway Authority’s website.

Usually, I am pretty much the biggest critic around of anything the local government here does, but I have to admit that the Tollway Authority won me over with this one.

I’ll second this one. I did mine late last week, and had two extra axles to pay for! :smack:

But hey, it’s been going on for * years already*! Just look at the New Jersey Turnpike and the Garden State Parkway. The former is the “ticket at th’ entrance, pay at the end”, while the latter has “Toll Plazas” in every county. I’m used to it. Just not used to the crappy roads Illinois has. . .

Tripler
Toll roads. :rolleyes: Sheesh.

I’m sorry for your frustrating driving experience.

I’ve had my share around this area as well. Especially, a lovely 6 hour nightmare of a drive I experienced a few thanksgivings ago during a blizzard where I was stuck in the leftmost lane and could not get off the damn highway.

Trust me when I say that what they’re working towards is a lot better than the way it used to be where everybody and their dog had to stop at the toll boths every few miles.

Right, the signs were there telling you that “Open Road Tolling” is Coming Soon . It ain’t here yet (well, at 4 plazas, but that’s hardly a spit in the bucket.) Yes, it’s creating crazy havoc during the construction. Added to the Open Road Tolling Construction is the Dan Ryan reconstruction , where I-90 and I-94 are the same road for almost the entire length of the south side of Chicago, and which you were also undoubtedly stuck in. Feel for me: I live on the North Side, and my baby’s grandmothers live in the South Suburbs. There is NO good way to get around the construction nightmares.

The frequent tollbooth system sucks. The I-Pass, for reasons you’ve already articulated, sucks. I see no reason to believe Open Road Tolling won’t suck. But let’s wait 'till it’s really running before we complain about how much it sucks.

Wow. Way to kill off interstate tourism.

Ah, this whole thread reminds me of why I refuse to drive on ANY toll road and believe that allowing INTERSTATES to become toll roads should be a capital offense. I drove on the PA Turnpike once and hated the way the road was constructed. I don’t think I’d drive on it for free, much less pay for the “privilege.” It’s an Interstate damn it, paid for partially by federal taxes. Either make up the rest of road costs with state taxes or stop taking the fed money, but don’t go charging tolls. If you want to charge a toll, go build your own damn road.

And yet, everyone in my family is stunned that I utterly refuse to drive on the tollway.

Wow. All the times I’ve crossed into Indiana, I have never felt that way. Musta been some terrible trip.

I feel your pain. Last week, I had a job interview in Indiana. I flew into Midway and took a bus to Hammond. I thought Cicero Avenue was bad, but the traffic didn’t get any better once we got on the tollway. Not to mention there’s that section where there are quarries on either side of the highway - a little disconcerting when you’re in a tall bus.

Here’s what I don’t understand - this “open road tolling” will still require an electronic tag, if I understand correctly. Since they’re spending all this money to upgrade it, why not just make it like the 407 around Toronto, which lets you cruise through at full speed and sends a bill in the mail? That way there’d be no backups at the toll booths.

Because the 407 corparation cannot compel you to pay the bill , if your from out of province, and the amount that you would have to pay for traveling from oakville to pickering, is not enough to sic the collection agencies on you.

Declan

I agree, that’s not the Open Road Tolling, that’s the advertising that it’s coming soon. I’ve used a couple of the working Open Road Tolling points and it’s been fine, you can roll right through. (This of course assumes that there’s nothing else going on that’ll hold up traffic, like an accident.)

Miller: As for killing off tourism, I know Wisconsin doesn’t have tolls (not sure about the other surrounding states), so tourists have bitched ever since the tolls started here that they have to pay tolls at all. It’s not so much the amount as their very existence. They still keep coming, though.

I hate toll roads, if they want money that bad then just raise the gas taxes. How much gas is wasted just sitting at these places? The funny thing is that half the roads that have these tolls are crap. If they are going to charge for the roads why not do what the Europeans are doing and make you buy a sticker every year? I know the Swiss have done this and they have in Hungry as well.

And this is an outright lie, this ‘breezily coasting into the tolling booths.’

When I returned from my last trip to Toronto, I had to sit in mostly-stop, tiny-bit-of-go traffic for three fucking hours on I-90 coming from NY into PA because the backup to the toll booths was so horrendous. Thankfully I anticipated just such problems (as well as the hour and a half line at the border to get through security) and made sure my AC worked and my gas tank was full. Also made sure that I had eaten and peed before getting into that mess.

Ambulances were driving up the median to treat the people who had heat stroke from sitting in their non-AC cars, and tow trucks came bearing gasoline for those who ran out of gas and would have to buy some, as well as pulling off the road all the overheated cars. For a while there, it was a ‘get to know your neighbors’ kind of mingling experience. No accident, just ten miles of jam-packed stationary backup before the toll booths.

It is pretty fucking bad. I wish there was another route that could get me from Pittsburgh to Philadelphia in under eight hours. When I drive to NYC, I go up US22, to I-99, to US220, to I-80. It adds about 45 minutes to the trip, and a lot of it is low speed limit two lane road (through Port Matilda up to State College), but it is well worth not going on the T-pike. My trip to Point Pleasant, NJ just cost me $35.50 in tolls there and back. That’s $16.75 each way on the PA Turnpike and 1.00 each way on the NJ Turnpike. Add in the 80 in gas that I spent round trip, and the wear and tear on my car and it would’ve been cheaper to take one of the discount airlines $49/way + tax and fees to Philadelphia and get picked up at the airport.

The PA Turnpike itself is in horrid condition, the road is too narrow and there are some places like the 3 mile hill with curves that are reduced speed because of the poor road design, and there are accidents and construction constantly. That road is a travesty. I avoid it whenever I can.

(I hope that was not too much vitriol for MPSIMS)

FWIW, it’s touch and go with the Open Road tolling, even. I used to commute up 355 and there is an open road toll at Army Trail Road. Especially in the morning, it was usually faster to get off, go to the ipass lane in the toll booth and re-merge onto the highway than take the open road toll. This is primarily due to a number of different roads merging onto 355 within a couple miles of the toll. However, I always knew when coming into the open road toll to either hit the far right lane (which splits into the toll booth so it opens up) or to just go into the toll booth.

Oh, and nitpicky, but the OP uses the word “Freeway” and then talks about tolls. These are Tollways - if they were Freeways, they wouldn’t have tolls. If they have tolls, then they’re not Freeways.