The INS or whatever the fuck they call themselves now

Fuck you. You are keeping my husband in a state of sheer agony. We have done everything you have asked and done it exactly as you have asked. My husband and I have been waiting since October for his name to clear some sort of background check. We were told this would take two weeks. In case you hadn’t noticed fuckers, it’ll be April tomorrow!

You will only tell us that it is still pending. You won’t give us a time frame, you won’t tell us if something is wrong. I contacted my senator, and that is all you would tell him, too.

So apparently you expect us to sit here and wait patiently while you take your sweet fucking time with his future. You do realise that he cannot leave the country to go see his family, right? Well of course you do. But my dear husband wanted to do things the right way. He didn’t want to sneak in and out of the country, like so many of his friends have done. He wants to be completely, 100% legal. Meanwhile, we are waiting and his friends have already seen their families five or six times each.

My husband has waited so patiently. He has tried not to lose his temper, he has tried to reason away the delay. But this is enough. His stress level is so high right now it is affecting his work and his school, not to mention our marriage.

So fuck you. I am so sick of this bullshit.

I’m not unsympathetic, but the background checks are usually an FBI or CIA venture. Not much the INS can do about them.

INS still doesn’t have it’s ducks in a row. I’m facing an upcoming wait that’s double or triple wait I’d wait if my partner lived in another part of the US. If the exact same process can take a month in Vermont, 6 months in Nebraska, and almost a year in California, something’s fucked.

I’m sorry you’re having such trouble with the INS or BCIS or whatever they’re calling themselves, liirogue. I feel your pain. I’m sponsoring my fiance once we marry, and they won’t tell us how long it’ll take to get his greencard after we file. My fiance would have his greencard already through his work, but the INS has repeatedly lost his paperwork, so he’s had to refile twice already. Best of luck to you and your husband!

Hmmm. . . a little inconvenience . . . protecting the rest of us against terrorism . . .

Because hey, it’s OK to dick around with the lives of your citizens, lie to them about when something will be done with, cause them to put on hold various plans for jobs/lives/kids/etc., and refuse to answer any questions about what the fuck is up, as long as you can claim it’s protecting against terrorism, right? Cool, makes me wish I was at my old government job, that sounds like a great excuse for not getting stuff done on time.

BullCaca. The INS was slow even BEFORE 9/11.

Assuming arguendo that the holdup actually has something to do with the “war on terror” and is not as somehow seems more likely a SNAFU, fuck you for characterizing putting a family through worlds of shit for six months as “a little inconvenience.”

How many terrorists exactly go through the trouble of marrying citizens and applying for green cards?

Exactly. And how many terrorists have been from Romania? While it used to be a Communist country, my husband was much too young while the Communists ruled to be a member of their party.

Yea, I feel so much safer. Bureaucratic inepititude! There’s no greater power on earth! The mighty shield of red tape will ensure the terrorists never strike again!

Right, which means your “protecting people from terrorism” remark isn’t worth the electrons it’s printed with.

Uh, that’s assuming that your first post wasn’t intended to be sarcasm over the INS or whatever-it-is now. If it was, pardon me while I slap my forehead and plead general grumpiness about feeling crappy at work.

They sucked before, but they suck even worse now. And lest you request a cite, here’s one (free registration required):
“Backlog of Immigrant Paperwork Growing”

WASHINGTON — Four years ago, as a presidential candidate hoping to draw Latino votes, then-Texas Gov. George W. Bush vowed to slash the backlog of applications for legal immigration. No one would have to wait longer than six months, he promised.

Despite that resolve, the opposite has happened — more people than ever are facing longer-than-ever delays.

Green cards that would have taken 14 months to process in 2001 are now averaging 33 months. The number of pending applications for such things as replacing a lost green card and obtaining citizenship has shot up nearly 60%, to about 6.2 million. Cases more than 6 months old have increased by 89% since 2000, from 1.8 million to 3.4 million, according to the government.

The main reason for the delays is the increased security checks since the Sept. 11 attacks, according to the Bush administration. But congressional investigators and other critics say insufficient funding, lack of personnel and other shortfalls are also to blame.

[snip]

Annual levels of immigration have held steady since the terrorist attacks. Now the growing backlog raises questions about the ability of the system to handle the additional load that would be created by the president’s proposed guest worker program. As many as 8 million to 12 million illegal immigrants could file for legal status.

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, the arm of the Department of Homeland Security that inherited the work from the old Immigration and Naturalization Service, is the agency struggling with the effect of the increased security checks and scarce resources. …The agency will soon send Congress a backlog elimination plan that is expected to promise that Bush’s six-month goal can still be met — but not until 2006. …[snip] Immigration is performing full checks on 7 million applicants a year, compared with 2.5 million before the attacks, Yates said. Out of 4,500 officers who handle immigration applications, 1,000 have been relegated to do nothing but security checks.”

They’ve increased the workload, they’ve increased fees and are about to do so again, but the service just gets worse and worse, and less and less logical.

Just this month, I had a family’s green card applications erroneously transferred from Texas to California, although they moved to Washington, which is in the jurisdiction of Nebraska. (Do you have a headache yet?) I had to file extensions of their travel and employment authorizations, to which they are entitled for as long as their green card applications are pending (which is going on 3 years now). Since Texas had send me a notice that the file had been transferred to California, I filed the extensions there. They were rejected for lack of jurisdiction, in spite of my including a copy of the transfer notice. So I filed them again in Nebraska, where the damn file is supposed to be: Nebraska accepted the employment authorization extensions, but rejected the travel authorization applications, because – get this – they don’t have the file, which is apparently in a black hole somewhere.

This is why my job drives me insane, and I’m not even the one directly affected; you can bet Homeland Security would be all over my poor Pakistani electrical engineer client if he worked a day past the expiration of his current employment authorization, even if it was because the same goddamn agency can’t figure out where his file is, even though they are the ones who moved it to the wrong office, so they can process the timely filed extension applications!

Hey, I suppose I should just consider it job security. It was amusing, though, that in the process of rejecting the travel authorizations, they managed to separate the youngest child’s from the rest of the family’s. The poor kid is named Usama. I thought for a while there that I would have to tell Homeland Security where to find Usama.

Eva Luna, Immigration Paralegal.

Sorry. WRONG.

I’ve had to deal with INS/BCIS/USCIS for the last year and a bit now, in order to get the permission to marry a US citizen in the US and stay there afterwards (K1 visa)

The process is CONSIDERABLY longer after 9/11 and since INS has been absorbed by the Department of Homeland Security. There have been MANY security clearances and checks ADDED, extra steps along the way before you even get the permission to ASK for your visa. What used to take 3 months now takes over 200 days, + 2-3 months more (depending on where the US Citizen lives… it’s complicated…) It takes up to a year and a half to get a spouse into the country. It takes almost 9 months to get a fiance(e) in, as well. In some cases it goes faster. In others, inexplicably, it bogs down. It could simply be that the person applying has a very common name, and all names that come back with a hit must be checked out manually… which is the job of one or two people at the service centers… how efficient… :rolleyes:

It used to be that the petitionner (USC) would petition for a spouse, it would go through a service center, be checked out, sent to the foreign spouse’s consulate, an interview would be WAIVED (for spouses, not fiance(e)(s)) and voila, you were done. Since the absorption into DHS, there’s an extra step (The National Visa Center), with extra verifications (and if you’re from one of “those countries”, expect a delay, slight to significant (their words, not mine) in getting your stuff from them to the consulate.) Once at the consulate, there are now MORE checks to be done locally and nationally. This takes up to a couple of months, more depending on the country. These did not exist before. Even the medicals have changed guidelines. The records checks are now more invasive than they were before.

Name checks go to the FBI quickly and come back quickly. The true blockage is actually at the USCIS level - local offices no longer have the power they used to have, now things are being “centralised” in the name of efficacy (yeah, right). USCIS has some serious issues, and the timelines they give you aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on, or the air they’re spoken on.

So, courage my friend. You may find great support at http://www.britishexpats.com/forums scroll down to the forums dealing with US Marriage based visas - they deal with expats from everywhere around the world, not just the UK, and also with all forms of Adjustments of Status, not just those from K1/3 visas.

I’m currently applying for my AOS, which will grant me a year or so without being pestered, and then, whammo, another interview with the gods of the USCIS to decide whether or not I’m married for real… then I get to be a permanent resident. This should take a year or two to get to the interview, here in Minneapolis/St Paul.

Ah, immigration, it’s SO MUCH FUN. Honest.

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Sorry, I got so worked up I forgot to paste in the link to the full article I cited from:

That poster’s original remark insinuated (unless I missed some sarcasm) that delays like that were acceptable tradeoffs to prevent terrorism. When I said that was hardly true, he countered by saying that the INS was slow before, which is when I said that his original statement was meaningless in that light.

I have no problem believing that the INS takes longer now; I’d read articles stating just that. I was stating that I don’t think the treatment that the OP got is justified by “preventing terrorism” handwaving.

That’s funny. The rest of your post, unfortunately, is just depressing. I feel for the OP, because i may be in a similar situation pretty soon.

Maybe i can hijack this thread to ask Eva Luna (or anyone else) a question about this.

I’m a grad student studying in the United States on an F1 visa. I’m have dual citizenship–Australian and Canadian–and i am in the United States on my Canadian passport.

In May, i’m marrying a US citizen, and we plan on remaining in the States.

My questions are:

  • where is my step (after marriage) to get residency proceedings under way? What form/s will i/we need?

  • while my application for residency is pending, will there be any restrictions on whether or not i can leave the US on holiday etc.?

  • any tips on how to make the process as painless as possible?

D’oh.

That should read: “what is my first step…”

Oh sweetie, I’m so sorry to hear about this.

My husband’s papers just arrived, and his ordeal was similar to yours, it seems.

We submitted his application last winter. On the website there’s a number to call ‘to find out the status of your application.’ So I called it and they gave me a date in May.

May came and went and I called again, they said ‘Oh, well, that was wrong’ and gave me another date in October.

Normally I’m one to demand to speak to the manager, cause a stink, etc, but what’s the point? Nobody who would talk to me on the phone has any control at all over the situation.

So I called in November and they said ‘It’s pending’ or some garbage.

Thank Og that we live in Canada, where I can be pretty confident in blaming it on bureaucracy and not 9/11, and thank Og again that it’s finally finished. My thoughts are with you, liirogue.

Eva: bless you for the good work you do.

You’re complaining about six months?! Ha!* My husband applied for his “greencard” in 1999. We had our interview one week after 9/11 (2001). He received a request in the mail LAST WEEK to come in for fingerprinting, so that his greencard application could be moved further in the process (who knows when he’ll actually get it). This fall, it will have been FIVE YEARS that he’s been waiting for his greencard to be processed. He hasn’t seen his family during this period because we don’t even want to get into trying to get a parole visa.

I don’t think Romania has much, if anything to do with it. My husband’s a white guy from Australia.

*I mean “ha” in the “I’ve got you beat!” way, not the “rub your face in it” kind of way…I totally empathize with you.