Rhis is especially important, since this is “The BBQ Pit”
The word ‘barbecue’ has an interesting history. It comes from the Carib word
barbricot. The Caribs - whence the word ‘cannibal’ - used the barbricot, a grill
made of green boughs, to prepare their cannibal feasts.
Marvin Harris
Having posted the above, I searched for “Marvin Harris”.( God, I do love this computer!)
Marvin Harris
1927 -
Dr. Marvin Harris was born on August
18, 1927 in Brooklyn, New York. Upon the completion of his higher education, he spent a portion of his life teaching in the Anthropology Department at Columbia University where he served as the Department’s Chair. In 1981, he accepted the
position of Graduate Research Professor of Anthropology at the University of Florida.
Dr. Harris is currently the Chair of the
General Anthropology Division of the American
Anthropological Association.
Dr. Marvin Harris is considered to be a generalist with an interest in the global processes that account for human origins and the evolution of human cultures. Due to his
interests in cultural anthropology, Dr. Harris has assumed the role of an anthropological historian theoretician. His work with cultural materialism has taken him to the Islas de la Bahia, Brazil, Mozambique, Ecuador, India and East Harlem.
Dr. Harris shares his knowledge of cultural anthropology with the world through the publication of 16 books. They include
Cows, Pigs, Wars, and Witches and Cannibals and Kings. He is also the author of an introductory anthropology college textbook with multiple editions titled Culture, People, Nature.
Upon the completion of his previous publications, he composed a series of essays concerning modern human behavior based on our origins according to evolution which he has titled, Our Kind.
References:
Harris, Marvin. Our Kind. Harper Perennial, 1989.
University of Florida
I didn’t know there was a profile for a racist. The only quality I thought you had to have was a narrow mind. Anyone of any nationality, ethnic, or religous background can qualify for that.
Bubba, what’s your source for the origins of “Barbeque”? I had been told from several different sources that it came from Spanish “Barbacoa”, or “Pile of Sticks”.
I was going to write a lengthy reply to this thread, but most of the points I was going to make have already been made. Therefore, I’ll just offer the following comment. By the criteria of the OP, I am an “idiot of subnormal intelligence incapable of grasping the most elementary facts of life.”
And proud of it.
Wishing everybody a happy and tolerant Martin Luther King Jr. Day,
neuro-trash grrrl.
An infinite number of rednecks in an infinite number of pickup trucks shooting an infinite number of shotguns at an infinite number of road signs will eventually produce all the world’s great works of literature in Braille.
MoJo - The source of the word barbeque was from this Marvin Harris fellow, whose bio appears somewhere above. It certainly sounds as if he is qualified in such matters.
If he has a degree in Linquistics maybe. See Merriam-Webster definition:
Main Entry: 2barbecue
Variant(s): also bar·be·que
Function: noun
Etymology: American Spanish barbacoa framework for supporting meat over a fire, probably from Taino
Date: 1709
1 : a large animal (as a steer) roasted whole or split over an open fire or a fire in a pit; also : smaller pieces of barbecued meat
2 : a social gathering especially in the open air at which barbecued food is eaten
3 : an often portable fireplace over which meat and fish are roasted
I read his qualifications above. I have no idea what a “generalist” is or what a “anthropological historian theoretician” does.
BunnyGirl - Fair Dinkum. I’ll keep searching.
Meanwhile, back to the canibals:
CANNIBALISM IN NIGERIA
‘Directly an enemy was slain, his head - and sometimes his body, if
the people were strongly cannibalistic - was taken to the village and
a great dance given, either at once or after the skull has been
cleaned of its flesh by boiling, or by being buried for a time in the
ground. At the feast, every man-slayer of the village danced round,
generally with a skull in one hand and his machete in the other.
Sometimes the body of the enemy was brought in whole; sometimes
it was cut in pieces in advance to facilitate transport. It was then
boiled in native pots and shared out, occasionally among the
man-slayer’s family and friends, but sometimes among all the
people of the village, until it was wholly consumed. In some tribes it
was forbidden for women and children to partake of human flesh; in
others, for example among the Kalabari, the eldest sister of the hut
was forced to taste it, however strongly she might protest.
‘Among the Abadja, the whole body of anyone slain was ordinarily
taken back to the village and there consumed, though it was tabu to
eat women or children. A man only divided his "kill" among his own
family. The body was cut up and cooked in pots; the fingers, palms
of the hands, and toes were considered the best eating. Sometimes,
if a family had been satisfied, part of the body would be dried and
put away for later.
‘When an Nkanu warrior brought a head back, everyone who heard
of the deed gave him a present, and much palm-wine was drunk.
The trophy was boiled, and the flesh cut away. The skull was then
taken out, accompanied with all the others in the village, and the
flesh was then boiled and eaten.
‘Much cruelty was practised among certain of these tribes. For
example, the Bafum-Bansaw, who frequently tortured their
prisoners before putting them to death. Palm-oil was boiled in a big
pot, and then by means of a gourd enema it was pumped into the
bowels and stomachs of the prisoners. This practice was said to
make the bodies much more succulent than they would otherwise
have been. The bodies were left until the palm-oil had permeated
them, and then cut up and devoured...’
P. A. Talbot: Southern Nigeria, Clarendon Press, 1926 (3 vols.)
‘Every moment, men, women and even children passed me. One
would be carrying a human leg on his shoulder, another would be
carrying the lungs or the heart of some unfortunate Kroo-boy in his
or her hands. Several times I myself was offered my choice of one
of these morsels, dripping with gore.’
Father Bubendorf of Freiburg, an eye-witness to the slaughter of a group of captives outside
the hut of a tribal chief, Onitsha, Nigeria, c. 1921
‘Cannibalism is widespread from the delta of the Niger for a long
way up its course. Among the Okrika Tribe, a hundred and fifty
prisoners were taken from a tribe on the opposite side of the river
and divided amongst the chiefs. With the exception of eleven, who
fell to the lot of converted chiefs, and were therefore spared, the
remaining 139 prisoners were divided up among the chiefs and the
men who had captured them, and killed and devoured by them.’
Bishop CrowtherI found a Taino web site. Here are some extracts:
Barbacoa = n : A Stand, a four legged stand, made of sticks, used in the
cooking process of roasting meat. It has many uses, as a Village Look out
Tower or used in the planting Fields as a stand to chase away the animals.
Barbecue = n : A meat roasting process. A poorly written translation
between Spanish and English of the Taino word Barbicu’.
Barbicu’ = n : A meat roasting process, using a fire pit and a barbacoa
stand and placing upon it the roasted meat. (See the word Barbecue).
This does seem to settle the matter.
Bubba
Canibalism in The Congo: http://www.heretical.com/cannibal/glave.html
Hating a race because they do or once did practice cannibalism is rather disingenuous. Evidence shows you’ll have a whole lot of hating to do (not that I think you’d mind):
Native Mexicans: http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~delacova/aztecs/montellano.htm
China: http://www.jiyuu-shikan.org/nanjing/canni.html
Native Americans of the SW: http://www.pacificnews.org/jinn/stories/4.17/980820-cannibalism.html http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/087480566X/104-1589368-9819622
Native Americans of the Pacific Northwest: http://www.reliablehost.com/bcadventure/hamasta.html
Just about everyone at one time or another: http://www.optonline.com/comptons/ceo/00817_A.html
I saw a program on the History Channel awhile back that put forth a position that is supported at least by the Pacific NW and Mexican links above: while cannibalism may have occurred, often times it was wildly exaggerated by explorers. Wanting to conquer the natives, they needed to make the natives appear as monstrous as possible; ie, make them appear in need of conquering. From http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~delacova/aztecs/montellano.htm: “The political climate in Spain in the latter half of the 16th century swung in favor of those who wanted to exploit the Indians as cheap labor. In order to justify this, it was necessary to consider them savage brutes and not brothers under God (50, pp. 69-95).” A practice that is still alive and well today, I see.
“I hope life isn’t a big joke, because I don’t get it,” Jack Handy
All of this talk about bbq has made me hungry. I wonder what my ex wife would look like on a stick over a fire being turned slowly…
Happiness is seeing your ex’s picture on the back of a milk carton.
Coldfire
“You know how complex women are”
Instead of “All Gay Freedom Air” how about, “Send the Ex to a Cannibal Country Air”? I bet you would make a lot of money sending ex wives to Wash. D.C.
Ted Kennedy 1
Three Mile Island 0
Captain Ed - Like all racists you are totally ignorant of your terms.
If you are “For Aryan Victory, (like) HAROLD A. COVINGTON” from your posting, this is what you have to look forward to:
http://www.stanford.edu/class/wct3b1/sjaiswal/aryanintro.html
Aryans are Indic speaking peoples of olive complexion and black hair (and no doubt bigger balls than your own). The people of Northern India, Afganistan and Iran (cognate of “Aryan”) are their descendents.
German IS descended from their mother tongue which was adapted by the Nordic yahoos they conquered so long ago.
But you only know how to cut and paste, not READ right??
Oh, for Pete’s sake, are people still posting to this thread? We’ve all had our say. Let it die. And no more talk of cannibalism. I quit eating red meat a couple of months ago.
The trouble with Sir Launcelot is by the time he comes riding up, you’ve already married King Arthur.
So it sounds like Blacks are cannibals. But when was the last time you heard of a blck guy eating a person? Ed Gien was white. Jeffery Dahmer was white…
SICK JOKE AHEAD!!! DO NOT READ IF YOU WILL BE OFFENDED!
Two cannibals are standing next to a large pot that contains a woman. One cannibal says, “It’s going to have to be Manhattan style. She’s on her period.”
END OF SICK JOKE SEGMENT.
We might divert this string to the question:
Why are the vast majority of cannibal serial killers WHITE MEN? They have quite a problem with this in Russia too - the Soviets tended to cover up the cases.