I’ve moved to the land before time, aka new house without cable, so I missed this episode. I am going to restrain myself from reading further commentary but may give in since I dint know how I’ll see the show later anyway.
I am a sad bean right now.
I always watch the show on TiVo so I’m consistently a few days behind.
Anyway, I’m glad they didn’t drag out the Belko red herring like they did with the teacher. I mean they stretched that out over 7 episodes–do they think we’ve never seen a crime show before? Have some respect for your viewers!
Note: I’ve been avoiding all spoilers, so I don’t even know who did it in the Danish version. The following is all speculation.
I think it has been clear from episode 1 that the killer would have to be closely tied in with the campaign storyline. Otherwise there is no way to justify the sheer number of minutes they’ve given to the election. (That’s why there’s no way it was Rick!) That means the suspect pool is pretty shallow: it has to be one of the three main campaign people or someone very close to them (like Gwen’s dad.)
I kind of respected the teacher red herring for that reason: at least he was someone sufficiently involved in the campaign storyline to be a plausible suspect.
Am I the only one wondering about the sloppy police work so far? If Rosie was on a call at 10:45 pm at home, wouldn’t have that shown up either on the house LUDs or her cell bill? They could have not wasted a week grilling the teacher.
They showed an ominous shot of Gwen on the boat at the end of the episode, so it’s probably not her.
Gwen’s father is a good candidate. Law of economy of characters and all that.
I’ve recently noticed that, too. It’s been what, ten episodes? How much actual policework have we seen from Linden and Holder? It seems to me that the only time they make progress with the case is when they notice something, visually, that’s almost stupidly obvious.
Gwen was on the boat? With Linden? I don’t remember seeing her.
I could have made a mistake, I was peering in from another room and I thought the last shot was Gwen on the boat. Maybe it was Linden.
What would be Gwen’s father motive?
I can see Gwen, Rosie and Darren triangle. That video snippet with Darren and Rosie shaking hands at some event had an eerie resemblance to Clinton-Lewinsky hug we’ve seen and a suggestion all that carries with it. I think…
Gwen’s father’s motive would have to be covering up an affair. Rosie had three-thousand dollar shoes in her room–they’ve never gone back to that but it’s clear she was having an affair with someone rich. I would say Jasper’s dad is a possibilty but he’s not involved in the campaign.
Speaking of Jasper’s dad, we still have to have some resolution to his snub of Mitch’s sister at the wake.
Was that Jasper’s dad? Is Jasper the rich guy that Rosie had been dating previously?
I do remember that scene and wondering who the hell that guy was. My immediate assumption was that they’d had an affair.
What a waste of an hour this episode was. Just pure filler. They were trying to kill an epsidode by having Linden’s kid go missing, but there was never a second of tension in it. This is not a show that’s going to do anything edgy or unconventional.
Plus Linden is so unlikeable that I was rooting for her NOT to find the kid. Incidentally, what kind of detective is she that she never evn thought to call his dad? That should have been one of her first call.
Holder is a born-again Christian? What a dud of a character he’s turning out to be.
And
:rolleyes: I fucking hate this show. :rolleyes:
I think that was the most useless hour of TV I have ever seen. I’ve seen more drama in infomercials.
I’ve been enjoying this show more or less, but this was terrible. Terrible. It’s like we took a turn down a dead end road for no reason at all. I’m sure the writers were thinking this was all “character development”, but even if it was, how about doing it a little at a time, and a whole lot earlier in the series.
This was a complete WTF???
This really felt like a complete “Fuck you” from the writers of this series. “We know we don’t have enough story to fill a whole season, and we’ve run out of possible suspects to consider! Here’s some bullshit that doesn’t mean anything or have anything to do with the actual, you know, *killing *of the title.”
I didn’t think the episode was that bad, at least not as bad as the garbage that’s come before it. Linden was obnoxious, though. The whole, “You don’t know me and you don’t know my son!” as Holder was trying to get her back into the car was trite and juvenile, and not something that an ostensibly intelligent adult should have been doing. Joel Kinnaman was fun to watch. He’s such a great actor. Nothing his character revealed about himself this episode resonated with anything else that was going on in the series, so it was something of a waste. Just pointless, thoughtless blather about his past and his recovery. It just didn’t click with anything that was going on. Same with Linden’s story about the kid who ends up “in the system,” so to speak.
I was pleased, however, to see that the writers were putting work into developing the characters, even if it was a little sloppy. This should have been something that was happening all along, though. We’re just starting to hear about the characters’ motivations in episode eleven? What the fuck. This should have been something the writers were doing from the outset. Linden is essentially the protagonist, and the audience was supposed to be empathizing with her from the start of the series, but up until this episode, she’s been a cypher and a person with whom the audience has no emotional connection. She’s been about as drab and emotionally unappealing as those ugly sweaters she wears all the time.
I’m disappointed that the series is returning to its typical narrative structure, covering the family and the politicians in addition to the detectives. At this point there’s basically no tension in the main story. I don’t care about the politician, whatever his name is. I’ve forgotten. And I sure as fuck don’t care about the family, least of all Mitch, who’s probably the most repellent character I’ve seen in television in a long time, and not in a way that’s interesting to watch. I no longer care about Rosie, or catching her killer. I mean, why should I? Any tension and emotional heft that her murder carried in the series opening has long since evaporated.
I’m with the bitter bunch. What a piece of shit this was. An hour of touchy-feely between these two mopes? I hope the murderer kills them both and goes looking for the producer.
I wish I had quit this show several episodes ago. As it is, now I feel like a I have to watch the last two episodes just so it wasn’t all for naught. But man, this thing really sucks.
Do you enjoy the show? Or at least find it to be okay? I’ve noticed that with this recent episode, there’s a clear difference of opinion between people who actually enjoy watching the show, or even apologists who are semi-ambivalent toward it, and people like myself who are slogging their way through the remaining episodes because they feel like they need to see it through. People in my group have been mostly complimentary toward the episode, whereas people in the first group think it’s, like, the worst episode of the series.
You watch Breaking Bad too, don’t you? I assume you enjoy it. It’s a hard show not to like. Do you think you could delineate for me what made this episode of The Killing such a poor episode, keeping in mind the episode of Breaking Bad where Walt spends the entire hour trying to kill a fly? Or do you think that* Fly* was also a poor episode? I’m not trying to disparage you for your opinions about this episode of The Killing. I’m legitimately interested.
I don’t know anything about Breaking Bad, but the main problem with this episode of The Killing was that it did nothing to advance its ostensible plot.
So we’re supposed the believe that not a single cop with any familiarity with this case is going to recognize either that “Adela” is the name of what appears to be a very major Seattle ferry ship or that that keychain’s logo was that of what is probably one of the only casinos in the region?
I mean come on. Everyone in Chicago knows what the Horseshoe’s logo is, it’s on a billboard every 2 miles on all the Interstates. Have you ever heard of a casino that didn’t advertise to death? Chicago doesn’t have ferries but we have dinner cruises and everyone has heard of all those ship’s names, I suspect that the ferries in Seattle would probably be even more well known.
This episode was so annoying. I’m convinced that it’s Gwen’s dad who killed her and confirming that is probably the only thing keeping me watching this show. Seattle certainly looks like a dreary miserable place and these miserable characters aren’t adding to the vibe, you can bet Seattle’s board of tourism won’t be using scene from this sucker in their campaigns.
I must say I don’t understand watching a show you don’t like just to find out how it ends. That answer will be on Wikipedia two minutes after it airs and in a dozen online recaps that will take considerably less than the 2-13 hours of TV time since one decided they didn’t like the show.
Anyway, I liked the episode just fine, even if it appears to just be filler.