I didn’t get the impression that he was really a born-again. It just sounded like he was rambling incoherently and conflating a bunch of platitudes into some justification of his vegetarian hypocrisy. All in all it was a bunch of nonsense and he’s just regurgitating some of the crap from his 12 step program. If the character were ever to actually articulate a clear thought I might find him less annoying.
I know in the episode when they discovered her body they stated that the water had spoiled any possibility of collecting DNA. I’m not sure if they ruled out rape or if they just ruled out running a rape kit. The fact that it hasn’t been mentioned explicitly seems to indicate that it’s probably not part of the equation.
I just watched this episode on my TiVo and at least 15 minutes were blacked out. I guess it was my local cable’s fault since no one else mentioned it. Unsurprisingly, it doesn’t seem like I missed too much.
I suppose it’s not unusual for a show to take a break right before the two-part finale, but this show just hasn’t earned it. Its glacial pace means that this week’s obvious dead-end was infuriating, instead of setting up an intense end of the show.
The most damning part of this episode was that I thought, “Gee, I wish I was watching a show about the murder of Daniel McClintock instead of Rosie Larsen.”
Probably my last episode. Allow me to be Linden during that confrontation with the Casino owner:
“Now get the hell off my property.”
“OK. But first, I need to call the media and tell them you’re interfering with the Police investigation into the murdered teenaged girl.”
That was the name of the dead boy they found who Linden thought was Jack. I couldn’t help feeling that a pair of more likable and competent detectives would be assigned to that case.
This episode was mostly annoying (Linden and Holder get more obnoxious every episode - the self-righteous, sanctimonious sermonizing during every interrogation - they’re liek two nacy Graces), but the show might have redeemed itself a little at the end by going in a direction I didn’t think it had the guts to go in. If it turns out to be another red herring, I’ll be pissed.
The whole subplot with Linden’s ex was a total waste of time. It has nothing to do with the main story, and just makes Linden look even douchier.
Although the episode was at the other end of the spectrum from last week’s, I’m left with the distinct impression that they demonstrated that they could have been moving this story along much earlier (episode 2?) if they had chosen to. But, as it is, we’re back to suspecting everybody in the cast.
I still think it’s that crazy billionaire who threw that party with the underage girls from the escort service. When I saw that he had a pool you could look at from underneath, that did it for me - he’s got a crazy “drowning” fetish and the money to make it happen, and he likes underage girls.
They surely are trying to throw suspicion his way! And the heat is on for Darren as well.
Have you seen a 21st Century “milking the suspense” sequence as heavy-handed as the last few minutes of last night’s episode? Amateurish!
Every scene makes the cops seem even less aware and less skillful than the one before. Wouldn’t it be great if the series’ final scene would have them stepping in front of a bus?
First off, yes it is slow but I guess if I would compare this is to something generic, like “Criminal Minds” I’d take The Killing show any time.
In my view, we had pretty solid last 10-15 minutes and, considering the whole pace of the series, pretty thrilling end with both detectives finding out about Darren, albeit in a different way. That whole scene with Darren opening the entrance door and seeing Linden while HE knew and she had yet to find out who Orpheus is… yeah, I’d say that was pretty good, almost movie-worthy.
As for Darren being a suspect and considering the story of Orpheus in his wife, I’d say Darren is just being consumed by the grief. So, I see that incident with Aleena more like a little introspection and guilt than anything else. Creepy, perhaps, but for him that question on how would it feel to drown is mostly related to grief.
Also, there were number of stills on Gwen to make me still hang on to the idea that it is her all along.
The billionaire isn’t the John with the drowning fetish (aka “orpheus”). The reveal at the end was that Richmond is. That doesn’t mean he’s the killer necessarily, but the current mayor also gave Gwen pictures of Richmond in a car with Rosie.
What this is probably going to mean is that Gwen killed Rosie out of either jealousy or some kind of desire to protect him. That was my theory after watching like ten minutes of the first episode, so I’m going to stick with it.
My memory may be bad (I saw this just once late last night) but I believe that Darren (Orpheus) was the guy who took the Beau Soleil gal to the waterfront and quizzed her on her thoughts and feelings about drowning. That’s not the same as his killing Rosie, although the clumsy writing might lead us to think that. I see this and the boy-with-ceiling-pool as outright deliberate red herrings.
If you go to the website and check the “suspicious characters” poll, you notice that Jack is not there. He has to be the guilty one!
Agreed. I have to admit it boggles my mind that people want to know who did it by the 2nd episode. This is more of a “keeps you guessing” type show as opposed to a “hey here is the person, watch us catch him!” show. There are eleventy billion of the latter on television and (IMHO) they’re fairly routine and boring.
I wasn’t thrilled with last weeks episode as far as moving the plot of THIS murder along, but unless this show is going to be a one season and you’re done thing, having character building and learning more about each main character seems pretty important to me.
There wasn’t anything interesting about those characters, though. They blew the chance to do something intriguing and differnt with Holder by teasing us with an early appearance of moral ambiguity, then having him turn out to be a standard order baby face after all.
A good whodunnit should also offer the audience clues throught. This show really hasn’t. It just lead the audience through one hour filling blind alley after another.
Richmond’s being hacked. Just like he’s being set up with the campaign car. No one in their right mind would use a car registered to their own campaign, that’s just crazy and makes zero sense. This is also why I think the only way Gwen did it is if she found out Richmond and Rosie were having an affair and she killed her out of jealousy and wanted to frame Richmond, with maybe some advice from her father. Remember the shoe company front for the escort service? That was Hacker Central, they still had messages from old message boards that he could access, and since we know that Tom the billionaire uses the escort service alot…
As far as Gwen chasing Rosie through the woods - the one chasing her through the woods wasn’t necessarily her killer. I think it was a team effort (Gwen AND Jaime?) and whomever that was in the woods was simply the one delivering her to the eventual killer.
