Not sure where you got that, and besides, if claiming victory in an Internet discussion with strangers was something I was striving for and/or took pride in, that would be pretty sad.
I’ll still take the trophy though
Not sure where you got that, and besides, if claiming victory in an Internet discussion with strangers was something I was striving for and/or took pride in, that would be pretty sad.
I’ll still take the trophy though
Indeed.
There are plenty of stories about bathrooms that are (and have been for years) accepting of trans people that aren’t accompanied by protests.
Got any cites? And anyway, so? what’s your point?
Sure. Plenty of places have been open to trans people for years (and probably longer).
My point is just to answer your questions – that I believe that universal mandates of unisex bathrooms would bring on far, far more protests than mandating that trans people can use their appropriate bathroom, since it would be a much, much bigger change, and it would result in every woman and girl sharing a bathroom with men, while allowing trans people in the bathrooms would not result in any more women and girls sharing bathrooms with men.
That we can each find cites for such bathrooms not accompanied by protests doesn’t mean that there wouldn’t be protests in some cases, and until and unless any laws are passed requiring unisex bathrooms, or any major national chain like Target decides to abolish gendered bathrooms for good, then we can only speculate, and my speculation differs from yours.
That link says nothing about bathrooms that are (and have been for years) accepting of trans people that aren’t accompanied by protests.
Despite that fact that your link was about an app that finds transgender safe bathrooms, I did like this quote - “if it’s a single stall unisex bathroom — it should be pretty safe.”
That’s just it - people and businesses don’t NEED universal mandates of unisex bathrooms - They can just start doing it!! They don’t need a LAW that says transgender people can use the unisex bathrooms. They don’t need the President to force states to comply with federal laws. They can just start DOING IT.
Do you consider this a problem? I recall a thread here where the women on this board were adamant that it wouldn’t matter if a man were in the women’s restroom.
Again, laws are not needed to implement unisex bathrooms.
I can show use numerous cites that show protests about allowing transgender women into women’s restrooms, but you can’t show one where people were protesting unisex restrooms and somehow that’s the same?:dubious:
Here’s a big protest over unisex bathrooms. Happy now?
Sounds fine to me. I have no problem with this whatsoever. If it doesn’t happen, trans people still need protection.
Not at all – but the anti-trans people do, by their own statements. They want to “protect” women and girls from having to share bathrooms with men – and this would happen every time if unisex bathrooms were the norm (which I’m fine with, by the way).
Found one in my previous post. Enjoy!
I don’t think that story means what you think it means, but it does have unisex in the title, so good for you!
I think it means “Parents in a north Georgia community are furious over a plan to allow unisex bathrooms in Fannin County schools”, which is the first sentence of the article.
Yes, like I said, it DOES have unisex bathrooms in the title. Unfortunately, I can find no actual content in the article that relates to that title.
Quotes like this one - “The superintendent said the school district is not changing anything and their policy has always been the same” and this one - “Parents are asking the school board to violate federal law and mandate that students used the gender bathroom assigned to them at birth” make me think this is NOT about unisex bathrooms at all, but letting transgender students use the bathroom of their gender identity, despite what the title of the article says.
I can, and did – the very first sentence of the article (which is not the title – the title is the headline at the top, while the first sentence is the first collection of words enclosed by a capital letter and a period within the text of the actual article).
The title and the first sentence referring to unisex bathrooms, and the second sentence that you quoted which relates why the parents don’t want the unisex bathrooms make me think that it probably is indeed about unisex bathrooms.
Looking up the county and unisex bathrooms yields other articles like this one: (2nd blurb down) that mentions the signs held by protesters:
Many in the group are carrying signs that say, “Not in our schools. You need to put our children first. No unisex bathrooms in Fannin County schools.”
That rather sounds like the school wanted to put in unisex bathrooms and people protested.
Are you sure that’s what they mean? I mean, the article title says unisex bathrooms, the first sentence of the article says unisex bathrooms, and the protest signs say “no unisex bathrooms”, but is that really enough evidence that parents were protesting against unisex bathrooms? I’m sure manson1972 has a better explanation.
Was my sarcasm too biting? Did I scare him away?
Well, to be fair (to me :)) the second article does a little more explaining. I concede that the parents are protesting unisex bathrooms in that article.
I don’t like articles that feature statements by the reporter without any back up material from the actual subjects of the article (like the first one posted)
LOL, sorry sometimes I have actual work to do
It does seem to have started out as parents protesting accommodation of transgender students. Another Link.
If there was evidence of protests of unisex bathrooms, especially prior to the bathroom bills being in the news, it would help support the people claiming that their concern with pro-transgender bills is men in women’s bathrooms and not just that they are anti-transgender. Because they would have been out there protesting unisex bathrooms too, right?
Yes, that is sort of my point. Nobody is protesting the hundreds of unisex port-a-potties at outdoor concerts and the like.
It’s kind of hard to protest unisex bathrooms because someone could just point to places that only have ONE bathroom in it and say “Yeah? Go protest that”
It’s clearly more anti-transgender because that is the new “scary thing” that people need to be afraid of. Lots of people are morons, and need something to fear to make it through their day I guess.