With the apparent proximity of the car to either housing or the restaurant, did anyone hear the shot that killed B.B. ?
Anti Pro - I’m not a detective, I’m the bumbling sidekick. Think Hastings or Watson. I make the stupid remark that inspires the detective to discover the key to the puzzle.
cazzle - The CNN article has information that doesn’t agree with what I read in the LA Times, which I suppose isn’t too surprising in the first days of the media reporting on a murder in LA involving a celebrity.
Daemon - are you kidding? A man gets a woman pregnant, marries her and then (in your assumption) has her killed, but we should let it slide? How do you justify that? A better plan would be for Mr. Blake to use a condom, not pay someone to assassinate the mother of his child.
wring - I agree with spooje. I’ve been several times to restaurants in the LA area where I parked down the street in front of someone’s house instead of the establishment’s parking lot, which is too small for the nighttime crowd. So the closest place to ask for a 911 call could very well be a house in which, for example, the lights are on indicating someone is home. As far as going back to the restaurant to retrieve the gun, I don’t see that as necessarily implausible either. If we believe Mr. Blake’s story (or the story put out by his attorney): Mrs. B. asks him to carry a gun because she fears for his safety. That doesn’t mean that Mr. B believes her, but he might carry a gun just to pacify her. In which case he wouldn’t think she’s in danger when he goes back to the restaurant to get the gun. it could make sense.
My personal opinion - if Mr. B. paid for someone to shoot his wife, I think he would have arranged for a better alibi if he was planning rationally. He was right there at the scene of the crime! If his wife died in his presence, it could be an argument, a suicide, who knows? I don’t think there’s enough evidence yet to conclude that he’s a murderer.
ok, ok, so those who live around there don’t find it strange that he went to a neighbors instead of going back one block to the restaurant. (grumble grumble). here’s the latest and we still have Mr. Blakes attorney doing all of the talking. Cops confirm that he didn’t have gunshot residue. If it was a suicide, where’s the weapon?
(article mentions that ‘Blake was concerned for wife’s safety, hence carrying the gun’)
also to be noted, tho’ the article says the housekeeper verifies the ‘surveilance’, in it, she’s quoted as saying that Blake was worried about something, insisted that the gates be kept locked (not the same thing as noticed a guy watching the house).
(for those of you in the neighborhood) How likely is it that a guy would be ‘staking out’ their house (sitting in a vehicle watching it for periods of time) and not get noticed by everyone around?)
Not much new today in the LA Times. The police aren’t discussing what they found in the nearby abandoned yard. R.B’s attorney (Harland W. Braun) is busy with the private investigator Scott Ross and two suspended LAPD officers (suspended in the Rampart division scandal); they are going through “three steamer trunks and six suitcases” removed from B.B.'s residence, in which they are trying to find proof that she was a con artist bilking lonely men out of thousands of dollars.
B.B.'s uncle George Hall was told by a family friend that during a visit to New Jersey a month ago B.B. was “crying and acting distraught” because “Blake wanted the baby but didn’t want her”.
wring, where did you read that the police have confirmed no gunpowder residue? The LA Times today states that the police are waiting for the results from a crime lab (but R.B.'s attorney is saying that no residue was found on his client.) As far as no one noticing the “stakeout”, I don’t think the police have had time to question the neighbours yet. But in LA, a highly mobile society, it could be possible to miss it. I don’t know the name of any of my immediate neighbours. Not even their first name! And I’ve lived in my house for approx. 8 years. Every time someone new moves in, I introduce myself and say hello the first time I see them, they tell me their first name, and I promptly forget it. People drive into their garage and from the garage go straight to the house.
P.S. The police took a couple of the guns from R.B.'s collection for examination.
Arnold I swear to god when I posted that, the link I posted contained that info - doesn’t seem to be there anymore, so perhaps what has happened (rejecting for the moment a flashback on my part 
), some one perhaps jumped the gun so to speak. it may have been quoting the attorney, and decided to wait 'til the official word.
The attorney seems to be talking damn near non stop, hope he’s billing by the hour and not by the word. Now, he seems to be saying the police are fixated on my client
I know what you’re saying about the mobility etc. I lived in an urban setting for more than a decade and rarely knew the names of even the folks on the other side of the duplex - but I’d recognize most of the folks, and if there was a vehicle sitting on the street with some one in it for extended periods of time, that I’d notice.
Maybe Mr. Blake should hire us??? 
Thanks for the information Arnold.
Putting aside for a moment the extent of Blake’s possible complicity in one or more crimes, does anyone think that he has no knowledge of his wife’s murderer?
My SO’s theory - Blake knew/saw them coming decided to not be there for it.
Nah, no one would have the nerve to say ‘Elementary, my dear Arnold’ to you!
I heard on the news today that Bonny was supposedly under ‘house arrest’, and yet there she was at the restaurant. Is that true, the ‘house arrest’ part, NOT that she was at the restaurant while on house arrest, THAT is at least, pretty obvious.
For the record, it sounds to me like RB has a pretty high stink factor about him.
I would, however, like to address the “how could he forget a gun in a restaurant” question. As a lot of you might be aware from prior posts, I regularly carry a handgun, so regularly, in fact, that I feel kind of lopsided when I don’t have it strapped to my leg.
The only way I can figure “forgetting” one’s gun is actually pretty plausible. Lots of people who carry concealed carry in fanny packs, you know, those stupid little purse-lettes that strap around the waist. I don’t know if that was the case with Blake, but it makes a lot more sense than slipping off an inside-the-waistband or shoulder holster and forgetting THAT.
One problem with carrying a gun in a fanny pack is there is no support to it, and guns are a little heavy, particularly if you’re a pudgy old guy and not used to carrying regularly.
If Blake had only recently started carrying the weapon, he might have unstrapped the fanny pack when he sat down in order to be more comfortable. He might then have left it sitting in the booth or at the table.
Another idea came to mind just now. While I’m not familiar with the specifics of the narrow instances when you can carry a firearm in the People’s Republic of Cali, it’s possible there is a “no carry in establishments with liquor licenses” rule. Most states have a similar rule. It’s possible he left the fanny pack at the coat check and forgot to grab it on the way out.
All that being said, it’s only one potential explanation for one point in a really weird story. I’d say he quite possibly is looking at a long period in the institutional color scheme of the state’s choice.
For what it’s worth, I had a friend who carried his handgun on his person. On at least two occasions when I was with him, he forgot it in a restaurant.
I can also see how a person could possibly forget a gun. People forget their purses, briefcases, cell phones and other valuable stuff every day of the week every where you go.
Something doesn’t add up though, it just seems too strange. If it was a hired kill, it would have made more sense for Blake to be right there. He could give a description of the killer and every thing. (is it just a coincidence that Jerry Lee Lewis’ nickname is “Killer” and she was also scamming him and saying that he fathered one of her children? Hmmmmm) But I digress.
It is entirely possible that they could have been having a disagreement in the restaurant without calling attention to themselves. I’ve been mad as hell before but kept a smile on my face until I got them alone and then let 'em have it. I can just imagine a dialogue like…“I can’t believe you said that in there. This is the last straw…”
But then again a celebrity would never kill someone would they? If he had planned to kill her, it wasn’t a very good plan at all.
Another curious fact. I’ve just read that Blake did not use the restaurant parking lot. Instead he parked his car on a side street. After eating, they both went out to the car. He then told her he forgot the gun and left her in the car while he went back inside.
I have to say this sounds like it could have been a set-up. Blake could have hired a killer, told him when and where the car would be, and left his wife there while he went back inside to establish his alibi.
Here’s one thing that upsets me:
She walked out on her first husband and their two children.
She had another child somewhere down the line (claims it’s Jerry Lee Louis’ kid) and leaves THAT child with her ex (?) for him to raise.
She goes across the country and has ANOTHER child by RB (though at first she thinks it is Brando’s).
To be honest, it doesn’t bother me tht she was killed. No woman like that should be allowed to raise children and if RB DID do it, I think he’s justified.
Okay, maybe not justified. And you should NEVER resort to murder. I just can’t be sad that a woman like that died.
However, I AM sorry that she bred.
Ditto what Sue said. This woman shouldn’t have bred.
She doesn’t seem to know who the father is of any of her children. Now in certain circumstances that could be explained once, but two or three times?
I believe she has three kids. I haven’t heard much about child #1.
Child #2, she claims was fathered by Jerry Lee Lewis, a fact that he firmly denies, she is named (something) Lee Lewis.
Child #3, is RB’s kid although at first she said it was Christian Brando’s. After paternity was determined, the child’s entire name was changed not just the surname. For some reason I find this odd. I don’t have the exact names in front of me but I think she went from being “Sophia Brando” to Christine Blake". I can understand changing a child’s name after an adoption or other circumstance but why change your child’s entire name?
Add to this the porn sites and allegations of attempting to scam dozems of others and you have a picture of one very unstable individual.
Well, of course. Unstable people ought to be shot. Preferably in cars on the public street while his/her spouse or lover or sperm/egg donor is off God knows where retrieving a pistol from a restaurant where it was accidentally left behind.
Where is Cato Cailin during all of this? The world’s first class free loading unemployed houseguest/star witness is mysteriously absent from the limelight on this one.
I, for one, am suspicious.
I’m torn. Is **this ** the funniest post in this thread or the comment by Eve that the waiters at the restaruant should be grateful she didn’t call from the car asking for her sunglasses?
[sub] ok, so I have a sick sense of humor…[/sub]
Latest news:
Robert Blake’s (former?) bodyguard confirms the story of someone hanging around the house. Earle Caldwell first saw the man (nicknamed by the bodyguuard ‘Buzz Cut’) about two months ago. The mysterious stranger often sat in a black pickup and stared at the property. R.B. was so concerned that he had his infant daughter stay with relatives in Calabasas. Caldwell and R.B. once chased the man through the neighbourhood.
Things to consider when hearing the bodyguard’s story: The bodyguard was told to leave town a week before Bonny Bakley (B.B.) was killed. Caldwell was told that Bakley wanted him fired. Caldwell was in Northern California when the shooting occurred.
Anti Pro, I have read several articles on the case, and none of them mentioned that B.B. was under house arrest.
Little Nemo, Fallen Angel, from your testimony, it seems that forgetting a gun in a restaurant is a more common event than I would have thought.
The Mermaid, you say “If it was a hired kill, it would have made more sense for Blake to be right there. He could give a description of the killer and every thing.” I disagree. Do you mean if it was R.B. who hired the killer? Then it would be better to be somewhere far away with a solid alibi. I don’t think a gunman would be too happy to hear “I want to hire you to kill my wife, but I want to be there so I can describe you to the police afterwards”. And giving a false description to keep the police off track would be dangerous too in case someone else saw the assassin.
Little Nemo, you seem to be implying that it’s strange to park your car in the street and not in the restaurant parking lot. As was mentioned on the previous page, that’s not so strange in many LA neighbourhoods where restaurants have small parking lots.
Sue Duhym: “To be honest, it doesn’t bother me tht she was killed.” 
That’s why R.B.'s attorney is using the method of “dirtying the victim”, or why defense attorneys in rape cases try to portray the victim as a woman of loose morals. The expectation is that if the victim is unlikable the jury will be less prone to convict. Needless to say, this should never be a consideration in a criminal case, and in my case any murder would bother me, unless it can be shown that by killing someone you are directly preventing another immediate serious crime.
The things I would like to find out:
How was R.B. carrying his gun? That would help determine the veracity of his story that he “forgot” it. As Fallen Angel suggests, was he asked to “check in” the gun at the entrance to the establishment?
Was there really no room for him to park in the restaurant parking lot?
Did anyone notice his alleged first visit back to the restaurant to fetch the forgotten gun?
And of course, what are the results of the gunpowder residue test?
She had two by her ex-husband, then she had a girl she named “Jeri” Lee Lewis, claiming that he was the father. I don’t know that his paternity was ever definately established (or not). The ex-hubby is raising those three kids.
Who has custody of the baby she had with Blake?
As for forgetting the gun, again I have to say the whole “forgetting” seems fishy. If you always carried one, then maybe I could see forgetting it once.
But he had applied for the permit to carry it specifically because he believed his wife was in danger. It seems like he would have made sure he had the gun before leaving any place. You can’t really compare it to leaving sunglasses or a cell phone. It’s a damn gun!