That picture is an ad, not a scientific study. Where do you live that you have that diverse a population of Mormons?
South East.
I think you’re completely over-thinking the hypothetical “Romney Wins!” press release. In fact, if Romney had won, they probably wouldn’t have released anything. They’d be keeping a low profile to avoid criticism or scrutiny. It is extremely easy to predict what the Mormon Church will do at any given time. 90% of the time they’ll do whatever makes them look inoffensive and mainstream. Every once in a while, they’ll do something stupid, like Prop 8, and the criticism will keep them from getting involved the next time.
As absurd as it appears to us, Mormons really believe that someday they’ll succeed in converting large percentages of the population to their religion. That’s why they want to avoid alienating large portions of the public and try desperately to become part of the religious mainstream. Unfortunately, it also leads to a weird and abrasive overconfidence like mtomm’s, where he’s claiming non-Mormons have Stake Presidents and Bishops.
Mosier said Mormons are “a mostly socially uniform group with very few outliers,” and the facts seem to be more on his side than on yours.
Didn’t the Mormon church only start accepting black members in 1978?
Florida?
No, they could join, but they were second-class members. They weren’t allowed in the Temple and thus couldn’t have an eternal marriage, and the male black members were denied the rights that 12-year-old white boys had to distribute the sacrament (eucharist).
Unsurprisingly, few African Americans wanted to join an organization that rated them little better than children.
No. Not true. Again, can we start a separate Mormon questions thread or something?
Ask those questions there. I am already telling you I will not be participating in that thread because I anticipate it ending up like this one, but it will at least get it all funneled into one place.
If you are interested in Black Mormons go here:
http://www.blacklds.org/
Plus, I hear those Jews are nothing but Bolsheviks anyway!
Oh, uh, what? We’re using the same tired “their weird clothes and hats!” and “well a hundred years ago, one of them said this weird thing, so sayeth them all” arguments, just applied to a different group?!?
Well, gosh, isn’t there egg on my face! I wish someone told me we updated The Eternal Jew to The Eternal Mormon!
Poor choice of wording on that poster’s part. An LDS bishop is responsible for ecclesiastical matters in the geographic region covered by his ward. If you or any other non-member found yourself needing assistance from the Bishop’s Storehouse, then you would go to the bishop for the ward which covers your area. It’s not unlike how a Catholic bishop is resonsible for ecclesiastical matters in his diocese, which itself is a geographic area. Non-LDS are not responsible to the LDS bishop and non-Catholics are not responsible to the diocesan bishop.
Same cult, different day.
Or the Mormon-phobes in this thread. Alas, sometimes there are a lot more “liberals” out there than there are liberals.
Guess so. Birds gotta fly, fish gotta swim, and people gotta hate, right?
I think you’re making a mountain out of…nothing. The alternate press release could be made by swapping out the names and a couple words:
There’s not anything untoward about what they said.
Nothing you wrote applies to stpauler’s post: he didn’t say anything about weird clothes or quotes from one obscure figure. He made some arguable comments about LDS history and its teachings. This is a bad and pointless strawman.
Since the other thread topic seems to be Prop 8, here’s my two cents:
It seems every time we glance at Prop 8 in the rear view mirror it’s a bigger and bigger mistake. It is mind-boggling that the image-conscious Mormon Church decided to go for the jugular on it. Now the ban is dead. Nobody in their right mind could have believed it would have survived very long anyway. All the church has to show for its efforts is that it made a huge ass out of itself, and regardless of what they do, for quite a while they’ll have a black eye from this with gays and liberals. You can see the opinions in this thread for some of that.
The leadership seems to be a little insular and secretive, so we’ll probably never know, but if anyone has an unbiased description of what process the church used to decide to go gung-ho for Prop 8, I would be interested in reading it.
How is point wrong.
There is no official Muslim hierarchy.
We’re not Catholics who read a book written in Arabic.
Marley, I am astounded you can read stpauler’s fulminating hatred (gruesome cults? barbaric practices? good riddance?) that has nothing to do with Mitt Romney or the LDS statement (which, recall, merely congratulated Obama on his win and commended the candidates on a spirited campaign) and not see that it stands for exactly one, ominously Third Reich point. That point: they are Mormons, and that is the first and last thing you need to know about them.
Your counter that stpauler was just making a “historical argument” is the rankest horseshit. There was not one iota of history in his post. He was raging against the audacity of Mormons daring to engage in American politics as if they had any right to. This is precisely the hate (applied to Jews) that animated Naziism.
Your cowardly refusal to call a spade a spade is dispiriting.
What have you got against Jews?
Do you feel the same about Muslims or are we cool to you?
I find the equivalence between criticism of any religion and Nazism much more dispiriting.