Yes, I misread one sentence of yours.
I agree that Japan’s actions were vile. I disagree that they were represented as evil in the film. What do you think made their representation so unnuanced? Just saying “it was about an internment camp” isn’t enough.
Still not getting you.
This conversation is over.
Why go into detail about the Flash Gordon movie? The trailer alone establishes that we’re about to see the least subtle movie possible.
“I like to play with things a while before annihilation. Pathetic earthlings! Who can save you now?”
“FLASH! a-ah! Savior of the universe! He’ll save every one of us! He’s for every one of us! Stand for every one of us! Every man! Every woman! Every child!”
(And then a thunderbolt lights up the screen, followed by a helpful COMING TO THE RESCUE. Wait, what? He’s coming to the rescue? Man, what are the odds?)
Fine. Go off and be angry over nothing. We all need our hobbies.
I’ve said my piece, and it was straightforward.
You’re the one who keeps bringing in irrelevancies, misreading my posts, and pushing some agenda. I’m not playing your game.
Both of you, knock it off. If you want to squabble, go do it in the Pit.
Am I allowed to ask what I’ve done too deserve being admonished, or do I have to open an ATMB thread? Being told off for doing nothing wrong makes me feel utterly shit.
I laughed my ass off the one time I saw that one on TV. It is so over the top and unrealistic that it is funny. I mean the rat as a door lock? Shooting a pistol with a carrot? The whole “blast the bad guys without unplugging from the chick you’re bonking” thing?
I’m not sure that intentionally unsubtle movies really qualify.
Anyway, you could argue the homoerotic undercurrent of Flash Gordon makes it more subtle than, say, your average shoot-em-up. (Admittedly, it’s not a very subtle undercurrent, more like a neon flashing raging floodwater, but still, anything that has multiple meanings is still a little subtle right?)
You participated in the two-way snark:
Note that I issued no warnings here, just told you (both) to knock it off. That’s about as mild as admonitions get around here.
What…no votes for Passion of the Christ?
Well – look, if you take what I’d said about the trailer and checked to see if the film is equally explicit, you’d in fact see more of the same. First he’s told: “Flash, I love you! But we only have fourteen hours to save the Earth!” And then, after getting the win: “Long live Flash! You’ve saved your Earth! Have a nice day!” As promised, the guy has literally saved every one of us: every woman, child, man!
But try that with the homoerotic undercurrent, and the trailer actually goes out of its way to emphasize what the filmmakers are up to: we see a frame of the comic, with Flash fencing a swordsman – and then we see that same scene in live action, except it’s now a leather-whip fight. We see Flash being marched like a prisoner by two guards – and then we see that same scene in live action, with Flash now shirtless for some reason.
Oh, sure, we probably would’ve noticed it anyway – but bookended like that, we can’t help but get the point, sure as the song stylings of Freddie Mercury continue while a dozen skirted men swoop down from the sky.
Passolini’s “Salo or the 120 days of Sodom”. Beat that.
There must be a point to this movie, since it’s a famous film by a famous director, but I couldn’t figure it out.
How about “Fascists aren’t very nice”?
Pretty sure it was “Fascists are sexy and have high tastes.” (Haven’t watched the movie BTW).
I think the message is “Pier Paolo Pasolini is one sick puppy”.
Snark is really rather normal - I see it all the time with no moderator comments, especially when it was only two posts (the other posts were us disagreeing with each other but not making it personal). And when someone is angry for no reason it’s fair to comment on it.
Be warned..the film has tons of rape, torture, shit eating. human skinnimg and lots of general unpleasantness.
Actually, never mind (re: mod comment). You made your decision, you had your reasons, I’m sure, and it’s no big deal. 
I agree, the homoerotic subtext was about as subtle as a wrecking ball. My point was that any subtext – even a subtext that’s jumping up and down yelling “Look at Me!”-- has to make a film at least a tiny bit subtle. If the film had been titled “The Gay Male Semi-porno Version of Flash Gordon” and written and edited that way, then sure, it would be in the running for least subtle. But the actual film, while not exactly in the running for ‘most subtle’, can’t be at the very bottom of the subtlety rankings, since it does have the thin shards of pretending it’s straight to make things at least a tiny bit nuanced.