Apparently veteran NDP MP Pat Martin thinks Green Party’s Don Woodstock is a “son of a bitch” 
PS - the Tory hopeful was, not surprisingly, a complete noshow.
Trudeau is the Liberal Party’s grasping-at-straws final attempt at relevance.
The party’s corruption made evident by Ad Scam, then by Paul Martin’s cranking out membership cards like flyers for a new car wash during his leadership campaign even while Ad Scam was still current, then Dion, then Ignatieff, should spell the party’s doom and probably have.
Trudeau would be a better fit as a Tory, especially after he and his gang voted to pass Bill C51. He’s a LINO, a Liberal in name only, and certainly not the smartest knife in the drawer. If, by accident, he becomes PM, he’d hire Harper as senior advisor.
Mulcair is as scary a prospect as Harper is in reality. Each is an extreme on the political spectrum, and thanks to the Liberal Party’s slow-motion implosion, the middle ground no longer exists.
Interesting times.
The Liberals are currently on course for massive seat gains in Ontario. Mulcair is often criticised for moving the party to the center by the more socialist leaning NDPers. I don’t get where your impressions are coming from, Kenm.
Seconded. I don’t get his point, either. If Mulcair has any “extremist” proposals I haven’t heard them. There’s a reason he might just be the next PM.
As for this…
This is nonsense. It’s like it presumes that there’s some sort of secret initiation that makes all Liberals at all times behave in exactly the same way just because they’re Liberals. Adscam was a Chretien problem; the subsequent leaders all had their own issues, all as unique and completely different as the individuals that they were. I was pretty sure both Dion and Ignatieff would go down to defeat, but for entirely different reasons. Trudeau, whatever his faults may be, is not like either of them, and neither are the policies or the culture that he fosters within the party.
Mulcair and Trudeau are both “extreme” from the point of view of the far, far right wing, about 15% of the population. They feel that 85% of the country is extreme left. They have no problem with how this is completely and utterly ridiculous.
Here is where to tune in to see Elizabeth May’s responses to the debate questions tonight. She was excluded from the Globe and Mail’s debate (rumour has it, that was one of Harper’s conditions for attending).
She’ll answer the questions live, and post them on twitter.
Harper actually appealed to the authority of someone called “old stock Canadians.”
It’s the “pur laine” of English Canada. Well, fuck him.
I didn’t watch all of it, but is there a reason why it was held in an what must be an elevator to hell? A creepy distorted Parliament behind the candidates and the moderator constantly descending through endless graphs.
Aren’t those just Loyalist Americans who fled to what’s now Ontario? Or is he attempting to include the French Canadians for once?
–foolsguinea, “old stock” yankeedoodle
Wow, he handled those both situations well.:rolleyes:
Yeah, seriously
What the hell else could any candidate in an election campaign have that is more important than a debate in their own riding?
Toronto Star article on access to local candidates
He doesn’t have something more important to do, he’s following orders to not go. It seems Harper wants to make sure the campaign stays on message and doesn’t trust any of the local yokels interacting with the public or media.
I think I’m an old-stock Canadian, in the sense that about a quarter of my ancestors are British or Irish and were in Canada before 1850. (Hybrid stock, though: shame about those Americans and Eye-Talians.)
Of course, I’m also a foreign-born immigrant whose citizenship can be revoked under C-51.
—Dr. Drake, both the solution and the problem.
It sounds very much like our newest import, Lynton Crosby is helping Harper out by getting him on board with Dog Whistle politics.
“Old Stock Canadians”? I guess that sounds better than “Folks who can trance their ancestry back to Europe.”
In this election, Conservative candidates have much better things to do than go to debates to discuss the issues. They have been told to stay away from the public and the media. This goes coast to coast. Sometimes different candidates have given the exact same word-for-word excuse about why the won’t appear in public.
It’s an order from the PMO to candidates. They don’t want anyone saying what conservatives actually think.
Maybe he meant people who drink Extra Old Stock. Then again, that’s probably the same people.
It was kind of a rhetorical question… although I wasn’t aware there was an edict from the PMO.
It’s an interesting strategy for failure.
I’m an immigrant too. I don’t plan on committing any acts of terrorism.
It’s OK, if you have the right ancestry and come from a major country that has pictures of the Queen on its currency, you’re probably all right. If you come from a country that actually contains the Queen in person, you’re almost as good as a real (Old Stock) Canadian once you learn a few Newfie jokes and how to mix a good Caesar.
Are you a conservative candidate for office?
You seem to be using the exact same tactics; make an accusation (devoid of facts), avoid debate, run away.
Well, I am an Old Stock Canadian and I think if citizenship is honestly earned it’s permanent. If you are convicted of a crime afterwards, banishing as a punishment should then be off the table. I mean legally and realistically, if you allow banishment for this crime where do you figure it stops?