The "Longest Election Campaign in Modern Canada" Thread

So it wasn’t politicians involved in the Indian Act, then? No politicians helped create the residential school system? Certainly no politicians could have been involved in sticking Japanese Canadians into internment camps.

Hell, Dalton McGuinty used Islamophobia to get re-elected.

You’re absolutely right. However, it could well be that the term racism hadn’t been invented yet, probably because it was so widespread and an accepted part of our culture. The internment of Japanese Canadians (or anyone that even looked Japanese) during the Second World War was not deemed racism, but rather necessary for the security of the country. My, how the times haven’t really changed.

Don’t know if it was a Conservative conspired assassination attempt or not, but a Conservative bear near my place tried to take out the guy for whom I voted. Then again, we drive identical vehicles, so perhaps the Conservatives are out to get me personally and their bear made a boo boo.

Very glad he’s OK. Shared lots of meals with him over the years. Regardless of one’s political position, he’s a decent, caring person.

Another couple of TBay boys are making the political news these days. Canada’s first Parliamentary Budget Officer, bean counter Kevin Page, with an assist from past-NHLer Vern Stenlund, has spilled the beans with Unaccountable: Truth, Lies and Numbers on Parliament Hill. He’s the guy who was hired by Parliament (i.e. the Harpers) to cost out the Harpers’ promises, but when he looked at the figures, told the Harpers, in more polite terms, to stop making shit up. In Steve Paikin’s interview, he expressed concern about the PMO’s top-down-control approach and called for greater cooperation between MPs, their parties, Premiers and the public service. Unfortunately, he also made it clear that he does not want to run for public office.

The treatment of Page and the PBO is one of the reasons the Conservatives won’t get my vote this time around.

Today I voted. This has been the most spirit crushing campaign period I have ever seen.

I truly hate what the Harper Conservatives have shamelessly done to the Canada I love for these past 4 years (the lies, scams, omnibus bills, turning question period into a charade of Paul Calandra’s non-sequiturs, Parliament into a bizarre farce, crippling of StatsCan, muzzling of scientists, attempted murder of the public broadcaster, operating the country from the PMO, refusal of any ministers to be questioned by any media, secret denial of refugee paperwork, it just goes on…)

As horrible as all this has been, I never would have expected those cowards to run the most disgustingly divisive campaign I have ever seen in my time. I would have never guessed that they would run closed rallys, that those cowards would issue standing orders to refuse all media interviews and debates. It boggles my mind.

The sheer, unshakable, faith that Tory voters still give the Harper Conservatives (after all this) is better than gold.

Myself, I truly hope that my vote today unseats these scoundrels and whomever takes over, starts themselves on the huge task of putting our country back on track after a near decade of political and bureaucratic darkness.

I voted in yesterday’s advance poll. I went about noon and the line up was 30 minutes, went back at 7:30 pm and it was about 10 minutes. I definitely want to #HeaveSteve and so I hope my vote helped to bring the sunshine in again. Canada deserves better.

Today’s polltracker results, after another Nanos poll, an EKOS poll and an Ipsos-Reid poll…

Liberals 35.1% 136 seats
Conservative 31% 118 seats
NDP 23.3 % 80 seats

This is the highest total for the Liberals so far in this campaign, and the highest by any party since the NDP were in a leading position in late August.

The Conservatives seem to top out at about 30%, with a high of 32.9% on Oct 6.

While there is a week to go, and a lot can happen, the Liberals certainly seem to have the edge on the all-important final momentum. It seems that many, many people want to simply coalesce around whoever seems to be the party most likely to beat Harper at this point.

Yes, “beat Harper”. He has made it personal, ever since he required everyone to call the Government of Canada “The Harper Government”. This particular bit of inane ego-stroking was simply pathetic IMO, and more worthy of a South American dictatorship.

That was the tipping point for me, when at a gut level, I went from respectfully disagreeing on issues to wanting him to no longer hold power.

I wonder if Steve Harper’s ego is actually going to get Justin Trudeau in as PM. That would be something.

Steve is the dictator, with the emphasis on the first syllable. He’s done well for a mailroom guy turned career politician but his luck can only hold out for so long. At least next week he can retire and join his old buddy Jim for some golfing and hot tubbing fun.

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If Justin Trudeau is actually elected Prime Minister and can hold on to the job (since it’ll likely be a minority situation) people will be saying the same of him sooner than you think.

Trudeau’s autocratic all the way. Justin Trudeau is a lot more like Stephen Harper than he is like Tom Mulcair.

Certainly there is some truth to what you say.

But I can’t see him branding our government as “The Trudeau Government”, nor can I see him demanding that all federal employees sign a loyalty oath to him personally as a term of continued employment.

Seriously - it’s not likely that Trudeau would have someone fired for singing a satirical song about him on his own time. Harper swung into Kim Jong Il territory with that one.

Personally I think it’s pretty sad so much of the “not Harper” vote has scurried to the Liberal party. Mulcair would be a far better PM than Trudeau. Despite our national pride being so tied up in not being American we seem to want a nice tidy 2 party system.

I’m afraid that I completely disagree with you. I wasn’t sure whether I would support Mulcair or Trudeau at the start of the campaign. But the more I heard from Mulcair, the less I liked his policy or approach. On the other hand, Trudeau has impressed me for the right reasons.

Voting for Steve was never an option for all the reasons given throughout this thread. He is a strong candidate for the worst Prime Minister in Canadian history.

Agreed. What bothered me the most about Mulcair is he kept a complete idiot candidate in my riding. In an election where candidates were falling because of something inane they said on twitter 8 years ago was ripe to be plucked, we get a woman who claimed to be ignorant of Auschwitz so she could hide behind a dumb sex joke. The pandering to her apparent ignorance was breathtaking in it’s stupidity, trying to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear. NDP candidate Alex Johnstone promises to learn more about Holocaust | CBC News

I wonder when the Harper Gallery of Photos of Himself will be taken down.

The reporting on this may be one reason why Harper hates Elizabeth May with the passion of a thousand burning suns…

Well if he had pulled her, there wouldn’t even be an NDP candidate to vote for. I think one or two numbskull MPs is a fair price to pay for an intelligent seasoned politician as PM rather than some silly legacy candidate.

Trans-Pacific Partnership text won’t be available before election.

I suspect Harper was taken to the cleaners in this deal, as the other countries knew he was DESPERATE for a deal in the middle of the election campaign.

Taxpayers will likely be on the hook for lots of subsidies to business.

Harper warns of ‘brothels’ and ‘injection sites’ if Trudeau elected

Harper is now doubling down on the hyperbole and outright lying.

Well buddies, “flaws in the approach” is not exactly "a Trudeau government will lead to “illegal drug injection sites in our neighbourhoods” and “brothels in our communities.”

But hey - keep up the campaign of complete and utter bullshit. Nobody is buying, except for your loyal base.