The "Longest Election Campaign in Modern Canada" Thread

The party mistakenly chose the right person for the job? That’s an interesting opinion.

Maybe. I’d hope a political party attempting to gain power in Canada would use a little more oversight. But if anything is known about the Liberals, it is their love of gaining and maintaining power just for the sake of having said power.

Then, again I ask, please show us the numerous other ‘never EVER been elected to public office’ senators there have been since confederation. If you’re right, and Duffy is no different than any of the others…then show us exactly how many others are there 'just like Duffy '.

(You’re still hilarious! )

I have no idea what you are talking about. Senators are appointed to the senate, not elected.

Not like, say, Conservatives. I’m sure they were just itching to lose.

Guys, arguing with Uzi about any Liberal leader, let alone one named “Trudeau”, is a total lost cause. Just let it go. :slight_smile:

He’s asking how many senators have been appointed despite never previously having been elected to any other public office prior to that. I don’t personally know the answer but the question itself is entirely clear.

Let’s let it all go and take up the cause in another 4 and a half years. I’m dissatisfied with the results, but the sun still came up today and we still live in one of the finest countries in the world.

Bonne chance mes amis.

What kind of oversight are you looking for? All the parties elect their leader. You think they should each have some veto committee or something? If so there’s no reason to single out the Liberals.

Seriously? What an utterly ridiculous thing to write…

I guess Harper should have had a veto over whom the other parties elect for their leaders.

Well this deteriorated quickly.

From where I saw all of this–south of the border–I didn’t see a nation voting for anyone so much as uniting in their determination to dump Harper. Given the NDP’s near-perpetual third-party status, of course the voters turned to the Liberals to get it done. As for trading on his name, demographic research suggests the biggest gains for the Liberals were among the under-50 crowd which never had a chance to vote for the elder Trudeau (and the under-40 voters barely remember him if at all).

And a much better shot at a cabinet posting with that kind of sense of adventure.

Yes, but it rose in the West, and we are all very befuddled.
Come the dawn, the Sun will rise in the West.
–attributed to Malaclypse the Younger

Please educate an ignorant Yank:

PMO – does this stand for Prime Minister’s Office? If not, what does it stand for?

GST-- some type of tax, apparently, but what do the initials stand for?

Why is the Liberal Party referred to as GRITS?

tyvm

Yes, PMO is the Prime Minister’s Office.

GST is Goods and Services Tax. It is the federal tax applied to, well, goods and services. It’s somewhat analogous with the UK VAT, Value Added Tax. It is currently at 5% down from the original 7% thanks to the really despised Conservative government who have been big on tax savings for families and businesses, but got kicked out of office because people apparently don’t like or appreciate lower taxes. In some provinces it is harmonized with the provincial tax rate and called the HST. In Ontario that is 13% now. So, we pay 13% tax on just about everything except raw grocery items.

Why are they called the Grits? I dunno. Why are the Republicans called the GOP? Same thing. And yes, I know what GOP stands for.

Leaffan got the others so I’ll take this.

The Grits are so called because of an historic party called Clear Grits that merged into the Liberal Party.

Thanks for that.

This is the Conservative talking point that grates on me the most, particularly after they’ve already lost the election, and are trying to figure out why.
Here’s a hint: There actually are some people who care about more than just taxes. I know the Rob Ford-loving “Sex with a Sheep” type Conservatives just don’t get that, but they really do need to start trying to get it.

Constantly bleating on about lowering taxes, low taxes, OMG TEH TAXES!!!111!!!, while the rest of us are trying to discuss regressive social policy, the erosion of parliamentary democracy, and blatant pandering to the most racist elements of our society, simply is not going to be a winning strategy moving forward.

Yeah, he knows, (they all know), it wasn’t about the taxes. It was about the divisive politics, denying people the vote (expats), islamaphobia, trying to create a dress code, refusing to meet with anyone not in his party, screwing over our veterans, demanding control of who asked questions, redistricting, spreading fear because he thought it’d win him votes, etc, etc. Creating a long laundry list of things that Canadians found offensive to their sensibilities.

And much as they love taking credit for how Canada weathered the financial crisis, the truth is when Mr Harper tried to emulate America and deregulate our markets etc (several years back now) it was the Liberals and the NDP who banded together to thwart him. And THAT is what really enabled us to enjoy more stability while the economies of the world took big hits. Yes, Mr Harper was in power during theses times, but only Conservatives have convinced themselves it was his steady hand that saved us all. Thinking Canadians were not fooled by this sad party line, thank goodness.

They are welcome to their bitterness whilst the rest of us rejoice the giant step forward this country took in the war against the politics of fear. And rejoice we shall! It’s been decades since so many Canadians went to the polls, record First Nation voters, record youth voters, historic number of First Nation MPs, etc. It was a banner day for this country, that, I believe, people will long remember.

We have a lot to be truly grateful for, and we are! And no amount of bitterness from the right is going to dim that, in my opinion.