the Macworld San Fransisco events thread....

go to Macrumorslive.com actual text feeds from MWSF

things look quite promising…

10:21 am Shipping several updates very soon to provide additional supprot for current apple technology. Sync services with handheld devices and entourage.
10:20 am Worked to make sure that current versions of Office run well in Rosetta.
10:20 am Microsoft BU update. microsoft rep talking about being on track for unviversal binaries of Office and Messenger.
10:19 am Rosetta on iMac. Office runs great on Rosetta.
10:19 am Other developers starting to release universal binaries. Quark unviversal beta shipping today.
10:18 am Pro apps will be universal in March. Final Cut, Aperture, Pro. If you have the latest version, you can trade in your disc for a universal disc for $49.
10:17 am iLife 06 and iWork 06 are all universal binaries, and was demoing them on an Intel machine.
10:16 am 10.4.4 is entirely native on Intel processor. All the applications included are universal and native on Intel.
10:16 am showing benchmarks. overall 2-3x faster.
10:15 am Two cores. each one faster than the G5.
10:14 am Intel Core Duo. an amazing chip.
10:14 am Intel Processor. 2-3x faster than the iMac G5.
10:14 am Same sizes. 17", 20". Same design. Same features (isight, front row, apple remote), Same price. What’s different.
10:13 am No other desktop PC can match it.
10:12 am The iMac - built in isight camera. front row. incredible reception.
10:12 am First Mac with Intel processor today.
10:12 am Thrilled with new technology from Intel. Paul Otellini leaves.
10:10 am Hard work, nights and weekends working… thanks Intel.
10:10 am Paul Otellini appears. Intel is ready. Apple is ready too.
10:09 am Intel Bunny suit guy walks out…
10:09 am Really good year for the Mac. Had previously announced that by June of this year they would be shipping Macs with Intel. How are we doing?
10:08 am Now… lets’ talk about systems…

New Intel iMac & MacBook. Very interesting… (And thank god there ain’t any Intel Inside stickers on those things.)

Is it just me, or did the G5 iMacs not drop in price?

the prices stayed the same, that’s been fairly consistent with the recent iMacs, they get faster/more features, yet the price stays the same…

then again, with Apple’s obscene profit margins (for the Mothership, certainly not for resellers…) that’s to be expected

the magnetic power connector on the PowerBook (yes, i’m still going to call it a PowerBook, “MacBook Pro” is a STUPID name) is intriguing by itself, i’m trying to figure out if the 4 pins in the center are actual power contact pins, or alignment pins, i can see it going either way, them being power pins and the magnet simply physically holding the power cord in place, or them being alignment pins and the actual power/charging being magnetic-induction based…

Just now placed my order for the last of the 17" G4 PowerBook line. I’ll go Intel when it gets old and unreliable. Or perhaps somewhere in midstream if Sonnet puts out an Intel daughtercard for PowerPC PowerBooks (is that feasible?)

I’d originally written this last June :

There will come software and the Intel chime sound,
and Rosetta switching the byte order 'round;
And Yonah Powerbooks glowing at night
And Sossamon iMacs in tremulous white;
Periperals will push USB bit-rates higher
dropping on a whim support for Firewire;
And not one will know of the war, not one
will care at last when it is done.
Not one would mind, neither Mac nor PC
If Altivec perished utterly;
And Jobs himself, when he turns it on
will scarcely know that we are gone.

No mention of battery life on the MacBook Pro - that worries me.

Forgive the intrusion of a Windows-user into this thread, but I’m wondering if Apple’s current surge in computer sales is due to Mac users buying new computers before they change processors. In previous threads, it’s always seemed like Apple’s decision to change processors has received a rather tepid response from the Mac community.

Mac Book Pro (did I get that right?) is a darn dumb name. It sounds like the marketing people were drinking their lunch that day.

Serious question, I am pounding this out on an old Sunflower iMac. It runs at 1.25Ghz. The new super-intel processors do not sound all that much faster. Will half a gig make a difference.

I suppose I will buy one, if only to support Civilization IV when it comes over to Mac.

Actually, lots of Mac folks (especially PowerBook-centric folks) have been holding off on purchases — first until October (previous occasion for product announcements) and then until yesterday. The ones with a large investment in Mac software of various vintages had been waiting for a non-anemic upgrade, an impressive new PowerBook, before replacing the one they had, and after the we’re-going-Intel announcement were waiting to see what would be the last and best G4 PowerBook for sure before buying one. Others who had been wanting a PowerBook for a long time — including incipient switchers — were waiting/ hoping to get an Intel version and were holding out for its apperance.

Now that the shoe has dropped, many people from both camps are ordering what they want.

Oops, meant to check the “Quote message in reply” box on that one. That was for Diceman

Of course you’re dealing with different processors here, so the clock speeds aren’t directly comparable – modern processors are doing more at lower speeds generally. Also of note is that this chip is ‘dual-core’ which is a lot like having two processors (so consider it in comparison to one of the dual PowerMacs of the same vintage of your iMac).

In addition to the things you’d expect to improve (hard drive, graphics, memory) the huge improvement of the Intel chips (and the G5) over the G4 is ‘main bus’[sup]*[/sup] speed. The G4 was stuck at 167 MHz. These new chips use a 667 MHz main bus. Getting a chip that could run at these bus speeds at normal temperatures was probably a big reason for the switch to Intel.

[sup]*[/sup]The ‘main bus’ is what the processor uses to communicate with anything outside of it such as memory, hard drive, video card, peripherals.