Yeah the article using 1930 as the reference point is odd.
More pertinent is that the ratio of men without college education or a decent income by way of trade relative to college educated men is increasing in recent decades, and that those men are not doing great economically. With neither high enough education level or bringing economic security to the potential partnership these men are not deemed attractive material. By any demographic group.
Yes the women may just be no longer feeling the pressure to make a choice between unattractive options because the alternative of being single was unacceptable.
Adam Ragusia gives young men advice on finding women. He includes some stats about how many fewer young adults are partnered, and how many fewer are having sex, than even 10 years ago.
I’ve known many women who say they “can’t find a man,” or say, “There are no good men out there.” In each case, though, the reason they’re single is because of their sky-high standards and unrealistic expectations. If they don’t make six figures? Forget it. Under six feet tall? Forget it. Not incredibly handsome? Forget it.
It seems as if 90% of single women are going after men in the top 1% of socioeconomic status.
I didn’t require high income, or very much income at all as long as there was a willingness to do something useful. I prefer short, but was willing to accept tall. I think most people are reasonably good looking and think that “conventionally handsome” often looks kind of bland; but in any case physical attraction for me isn’t only about appearance.
What I wanted was somebody who wanted to marry me. Not an idea in their own head of who they thought I was but which had little connection with reality. Not somebody they thought they could turn me into. Not just something female. Me. Sure, compromise is necessary in any relationship; but for that to really work, it’s necessary to understand that compromises are being made and what they are.
I met plenty of men who wanted to have sex with me; so it certainly wasn’t that. I met several who wanted to marry who they imagined I was or thought I could be turned into. I know a few who I think might have actually wanted me — but I was a late starter, and by the time I was ready to pair off they were already paired with somebody else.
There are a shitload of good men out there. There are also a shitload of bad ones. The older you get after around early twenties, the smaller the proportion of good ones who want to be paired but haven’t already done so.
In addition to that, not everyone is a good match for everyone else, even when they’re both good people and both single. The man my sister married (some sixty years ago) is a good match for her. He would have been a terrible match for me.
And yet a whole lot of men who aren’t in that 1%, or anywhere near it, do get married to women. Considerably more than 10% of them. So however it seems to you, I think that’s just plain wrong.
As TLC told us back in 1999, women “don’t want no scrub.” Some friends of mine got divorced, in part, because the husband had absolutely no ambition to improve his life. They both worked at grocery stores, and she worked her way up the chain while he was content to stock shelves. She didn’t want to live in an apartment for the rest of her life.
In my day (30 years ago), when a guy was walking a woman back to their dorm, there was also a non-zero chance she was interested in having sex with him.
It’s not like men and women didn’t struggle with the challenges of meeting people back then. But it seems like men and women have just painted such a horrible picture of each other that most are afraid to talk to the other.
Then again, my wife was telling me about her single friend’s recent second date where the guy thought it would be a good idea to show her some dick pics in the cab.
I dunno, showing dick pics to somebody in person just seems oddly… remote. Like showing a visitor pictures of your dog or cat when the pet’s in the next room.
And yeah, whether in-person or remotely, showing unsolicited dick pics before there’s been any sexual activity is too soon.
My wife’s college roommate once memorably lamented that any guy she goes out with knows beforehand how well-endowed she is up top, but she has no idea what the story is with this or that guy until, uh, afterhand.
There’s a lot more to breastly attractiveness than raw bulk. And although raw bulk is visible through clothing there’s an awful lot of bulk-disguising clothing out there. Mostly for expanding but also for shrinking and reshaping.
There’s also, at least for most women, a great deal more to male sexual attractiveness than just bulk. And the appearance of the penis often has little to do with it.
What women find attractive, or what they desire sexually, is very different from what the typical man thinks they want. The same is true going the other direction, but IMO / IME, not to nearly the same degree. The situation is definitely not symmetrical.
Yeah complete hijack but I really have no comprehension regarding dick pics. I’m rather attached to my member, a fan, but in no stretch of my imagination would I consider its appearance as something to show off. Of course there are women getting plastic surgery on their labia now? Seriously? Does any partner, male female or fluid, really care if the lips are long short or symmetrical? Or just how it functions, who they are a part of, and what they are going to do them?
Also yes, and possibly more on thread, good data on men’s imaginings of what women think of as most attractive is not same as what they do.