The Most Indecipherable Dopers.

[steatopygia]

In my line of work, we call what Dunmurray was doing, “pressured speech”.
It’s not usually a good thing.

[Sunny_Daze]

@VinylTurnip

Jeez people, he did everything but announce “I’m placing my tongue into my cheek now.”

Yeah. That’s why I gave him a :dubious:. An ISWYDT, if you will. The skeptical eye, watching.

I admire his writing. It might lend itself more towards long form media versus a thread post, but I suspect he was nominated for his blog re-posts, so that is understandable.

[XT]

Hard to believe that Gigo would make such a list. I think that XT guy is pretty indecipherable, especially when he does his drunk poster bit. But I’d nominate Weisshund as one that, most of the time I can’t figure out what he’s getting at. I’ve noticed that Machinaforce can be pretty indecipherable as well.

[Ambivalid]

@XT

Hard to believe that Gigo would make such a list.

Yeah I copped to it being a mistake. TBH, I can usually always follow Gigo’s posts, despite a bit of, at times, awkward language. It doesn’t impede understanding however. In hindsight I would have put Dropzone or usedtobe in that spot.

[XT]

@Ambivalid

Yeah I copped to it being a mistake. TBH, I can usually always follow Gigo’s posts, despite a bit of, at times, awkward language. It doesn’t impede understanding however. In hindsight I would have put Dropzone or usedtobe in that spot.

Ah, sorry…I didn’t see the follow on posts, just the OP. I’d definitely put usedtobe on the list, and Dropzone mainly because he’d probably love being on such a list.

[LSLGuy]

I am amazed that I’m making post #126 and no one has yet mentioned the fine work of Isilder.

For awhile I thought he was European and I gave him a lot of slack for ESL and a different cultural baseline and all the rest. The fact he usually posts in the wee hours US time further supported my assumption.

Eventually somewhere he said something that convinced me he was definitely a native-born US 'Merkin.

At which point understanding him got even harder. It’s an off-kilter explanation of a lot of off-kilter POVs.

Frankly I’d rather deal with Leo. Eventually we can piece together what he’s trying to say. And it’s much more likely to be worthwhile.

[Spice_Weasel]

@AHunter3

No, it’s not like that at all, actually. That is to say, pride would convey a sense of active enthusiasm for the writing style in and of itself. Note that you’ve attached the notion of deliberately ensuring needless complexity to the writing style itself. I want to make a difficult but important distinction here, between offering as an object of ridicule the notion that a writing style can deliberately do anything, on the one hand, and holding up the notion that in some sense (anthropomorphized a bit though it may in fact be) the writing style does deliberately embrace complexity, on the other, and ally myself with the latter. That is to say, I disavow any intention at this point of deflecting your claim with the cheap easy shot of ridicule and I am in fact suggesting we give it thoughtful consideration.

Robert Pirsig, late in Zen, eventually replies to the pointed question from the Philosophy Department’s head, to wit, “So is quality inherent in the object that possesses it or is quality merely what you like?”; his eponymous main character feels thwarted for awhile before dropping his metaphorical pen-point down in midsentence and asking, “What purpose is served within that sentence by the word ‘merely’?”, which begins his dissection of the phony opposition of objectivity and subjectivity – as those of you who’ve read it will recall. I’m going to attempt a similar thing in bringing your focus to the word “needlessly” in your own sentence.

I do have a fondness for fine differentials in precise meaning right at the point of their divergence, and I will confess to a fondness for a rhetorical approach that indicates that point of divergence and only later on, in subsequent paragraphs, puts on display the larger and hence genuinely significant of that fork. Since proceeding in this fashion allows me to work with a verbal dissecting knife to perform a precision disentanglement of normally-conflated concepts, and the latter is the territory in which I quite often find myself operating, I will herewith confess to the pride of which you speak but at the same time shall defend it against the charge of lacking sufficient necessity.

Olive you. Blather on all you like.

[dropzone]

I didn’t make it to Blather Prince, even? I need to work on my delivery.

[Riemann]

@LSLGuy

I am amazed that I’m making post #126 and no one has yet mentioned the fine work of Isilder.

Equal parts non-sequitur, factual error, and incomprehensibility - but all with an air of supercilious confidence.

[usedtobe]

Now children, do not attribute your lack of understanding to the text.

I am still proud of my stream-of-consciousness thread about my first life-threatening event of the year.

Otherwise, I am the son of the “English teacher from Hell” mother…

[LSLGuy]

@Riemann

Equal parts non-sequitur, factual error, and incomprehensibility - but all with an air of supercilious confidence.

As so often, we agree. But your version is much pithier & punchier than mine. Well done.

[dropzone]

@XT

Ah, sorry…I didn’t see the follow on posts, just the OP. I’d definitely put usedtobe on the list, and Dropzone mainly because he’d probably love being on such a list.

I will admit to being disappointed it took so long for my name to show up.

[Count_Blucher]

@Czarcasm

I agree with you about the first statement, and far as the sig goes you might want to rewrite it to avoid confusion-something like “Octopus-Eat shit, asshole”, just to clarify that everyone is saying it to you.

Mr C, I think I owe you beers. Tall-Boys, and not the cheap shit.

[elucidator]

What about that recent guy, who streaked across the Doper sky like a stinky brown meteor!

[Kamino_Neko]

He was coherent, just vacuous and one-note.

[dropzone]

@elucidator

What about that recent guy, who streaked across the Doper sky like a stinky brown meteor!

You really need to be more specific. We get lots of those.

[Ludovic]

You know, that guy who made some edgier than Bismuth posts. Join date June 2017. Certainly that rings a bell?

[dropzone]

Oh, that one!

ETA:. Dozen?

[TroutMan]

I have to give props to DarwinsStepChildren who today created the most impressive wall of text (or as Darren Garrison called it, obelisk of text) ever. I’m too intimidated to read enough to even determine how intelligible it is.

[TokyoBayer]

@AHunter3

I will herewith confess to the pride of which you speak but at the same time shall defend it against the charge of lacking sufficient necessity.

Sure. There is a trade off between self proclaimed eloquence and accessibility. I had, at one point, taken your writing at face value, that you wanted people to understand you.