The Mueller report. The week after its released

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Actually, he died in New Jersey, but close enough. :slight_smile:

Could you give an example of a thing which was 1) actually true, and 2) interpreted in Democratic favor?

Source of the dossier.
I mean a campaign getting it’s info from russians is pretty easily interpreted as Russian election interference.

On both sides.

Republican side is more clear though.
The last thing anyone ought to be doing during an election is unofficial non public business with a foreign nation with a stressed relationship to the US

Christopher Steele is English. Not Russian.

I’d start here and then come back to the thread with a better lay of the land.

If I ask an Australian man what he thinks about Trump, was there Australian election interference?

Manafort is guilty, Flynn is guilty. If there is some legalistic nicety that says they don’t go to prison because the Steele dossier has grammatical errors…I don’t much care. Truth matters, punishment runs a distant second. Sitting President can’t be indicted? Still don’t care, want the truth, the whole truth, with the eight by ten color glossies with the arrows and notes… Just the facts, man.

Unfortunately, good people are given the shovels and rakes to clean up the mess that the GOP has created.

Bring that into the senate, and McConnell will enter the chambers and sit down with a seeing eye dog. Just a typical case of American blind senility.

“Trump is not charged with any crime, Mueller’s report offers disclosure showing it was fairly conducted.”

With a caveat: Not charged with any collusion-related crime (conspiracy, etc.). However, he very well may be implicated in obstruction or some other crime that doesn’t involve “collusion”.

To cover up a crime that didn’t happen? Yeah, I guess, things are weird enough that makes sense. Sorta. Kinda.

It is indeed a little complicated, because you can do something that can be interpreted as obstruction without ever having been guilty of the original crime, just as you can be guilty of lying about something you weren’t guilty of doing. Just ask Scooter Libby.

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“No collusion…well, maybe ‘collusion’ with a little ‘c,’ just like Rudy said. Unless y’all are cool with it now.”

Depends, are you campaign staff, and asking him to be a go between to gather dirt from russians?

Anyway, here we are, considering recent news ( no collusion, insufficient evidence for obstruction according to Mueller)

I’ll call this " told ya"

Actually Nixon died in New York but I understand those states are very close to one another.

Well we’ll have to see (if we see) what the full report says, but so far it looks like I was about spot on.

I missed this thread, but would’ve said the same thing. I strongly suspect that most of what happened had to do with Trump’s fixation on getting a Trump tower in Moscow, and that–not expecting to win the election–he was just trying to leverage the campaign to further that end. That would explain all the lies and secrecy, and how he was careful to have a fig leaf.

The report hasn’t been released yet.