So if Trump used someone who was contracted to meet up and get dirt on Hillary that whole meeting would be ok?
Well, that would depend. If Trump paid someone a fair market rate to gather information for him, then that would not be a problem. In fact, Trump paid probably thousands of people to do things for him in relation to the campaign, including likely to gather information on Clinton, and none of those transactions was ever considered to be a problem.
That’s not what happened.
(Do you understand the issue here? I don’t think that you do.)
Let me clarify that I believe he wouldn’t have even had to pay them if they were volunteering for his campaign, if they were US citizens.
What’s going to happen here is that you’ll realize you are wrong, and you’ll silently crawl away without ever facing the fact. Enjoy this game between now and then.
Not the way you do.
Still seems like semantics to me if your campaign is gathering Intel through connections to a foreign power.
Much like hiring a Hitman doesn’t make you less of a murderer.
In any case I would hope that the impeachment of any president would be thought of as a sad day in American history rather than something to hope and pray for and cheer about. At least by anyone who considers themselves moderate.
Yeah, I’d agree with that.
Another great analogy would be how investigating your nanny’s background by calling her prior employer is no different than having a foreign government offer to commit crimes to manipulate a United States presidential election on your behalf, and then telling them to go ahead with their proposed criminal activity.
Huh, maybe the second part of that analogy is a little too on the nose.
In fact, this reminds me of the guy on these boards, who (during the 2nd Gulf War) assured us that he was “in the know” and had insider knowledge that there were definitely, positively, without doubt WMD’s in Sadaam’s Iraq.
He knew this, you see. And the rest of us would be amazed, AMAZED, once it all came out, and his insider knowledge would be shown to be the truth.
Then, he slunk away, and was never heard from again. Done. Vanished into the night.
30 indictments, 8 people convicted, all of them connected to Trump and or his business or campaign. And that’s just the tip of the ice burgh.
To defend Trump, a person must believe that the President of the United States is so easily manipulated, and such an idiot that he had nothing to do with any of this.
That’s really Trumps only defense. “I’m a moron”.
I don’t care if you consider yourself Left, Right or Moderate. Impeachment of the President shows that the Constitution works, and we will not stand for electing a moron ‘King’.
I will celebrate that the FF’s did it right.
It’s hard see in what context Trump’s actions towards anything to do with Russia make sense other than that of his being a Russian asset. If he isn’t one, he’s sure acting like one. It’s all happening right in front of us, and it doesn’t take any particular left-wing proclivities to see it. Maybe Trump supporters have too much of their identity invested in his administration to see what’s in front of them, I don’t know, but there’s nothing particularly liberal about seeing Trump invite the Russian press into the oval office to tell them the heat’s off now that he’s fired Comey and thinking something could be a bit fishy.
Not the Russian press–Russian government officials.
We had W, speaking of moron kings
I didn’t know was always Hillary’s defense
If there’s a trial it looks like it will be a mob boss type deal.
How hard it is to prove is going to be based on wordplay.
According to this guy
See the first question in the QA section at bottom.
Doesn’t seem to be a whole lot of faith in hard evidence of collusion but rather can they prove Trump’s ordering people to sabotage the investigation. So if he gets a real charge I’d guess it would be obstruction or something.
“Argle Bargle Hillary” is not really a stirring nor effective defense for Mr. Trump’s stupidity.
Good.
Then you might just consider that bringing up Hillary over and over in a thread about Mueller’s investigation, charges and convictions of Trump associates…
makes any argument you bring to bear look weak and ineffectual.
At the time this came out, Hillary was no longer SoS, wasn’t president or president-elect, was no longer a Senator. She was essentially a private citizen, right? What kind of security clearance would she have possessed to be revoked?
…No, it really couldn’t.
…No, not even close.
I’m sure you would. This is the same party that entertained birtherism for ages. That doesn’t mean that it’s actually the same thing.
Buddy… You have no idea what you’re talking about.
And this is my long time complaint. People simply do not know how government works. 19 fucking approvals from 19 fucking regulatory agencies are done, but no. No! Hillary can do what she wants with a pen and move uranium whenever she wants.
Test before voting would be best.