Well, the OP didn’t specify that; but it did specify post-Muppet Show, and Sesame Street actually started before The Muppet Show.
And I really enjoyed Muppets Tonight (the sort-of-revival of The Muppet Show in 1996) and wish it had caught on.
Well, the OP didn’t specify that; but it did specify post-Muppet Show, and Sesame Street actually started before The Muppet Show.
And I really enjoyed Muppets Tonight (the sort-of-revival of The Muppet Show in 1996) and wish it had caught on.
Agree! The writing and performances were as good as anything in past Muppetverse projects, and had a more adult edge. Which brings us back to the original question - why didn’t it find an audience? (How many of you were aware there even was a prime time Muppet show in 2015?)
I was going to mention the 2015 show as well, which I found hilarious. The writing was excellent - Pepe the Prawn really came into his own in that one. But I suspect it floundered because it was too adult for children and too childish for many adults.
Speaking of adult Muppet productions, I have to say that The Happytime Murders was waaaaaaay outside the usual Muppet box (and was produced under the “Henson Alternative” brand). Speaking as someone who enjoys excessively weird stuff, I came away somewhat traumatized by watching it. That scene with the octopus and the cow…I’ll never be able to unhear that “MOOOOOOOOOOOO…”
Yeah. The Uncle Deadly/Miss Piggy stuff was terrific fun.
Henson (and Oz) might not have produced Sesame Street, but they were a big part of what made it what it was. And Sesame Street is certainly more of a Muppets project than Star Wars was, because unlike Star Wars, Sesame Street contains Muppets.
The new one that just started is ok. One of its problems is that it does the SAME sketches every week. I love the Swedish Chef but he’s not funny every episode. A little more variety would make it work better.
I think what made the 70s one work was that it just went for it. It was risky and bonkers. In the successive shows there were moments of hilarity, but you need that madcap “Let’s just try it and see if it works” energy. The last few shows have all felt like Muppet by numbers instead of authentic chaos.
I like the new show, though the Piggy segments have gotten old quick. Of course the Muppet Labs segments are gold in my opinion.
We need to get Bunsen and Beaker working on that, ASAP.
I like Roger Ebert’s Muppet Movie (1979) review where he waxes rhapsodic about Kermit riding a bike. To expand on what Didi44 said up-topic, CGI would be used nowadays, and the magic would be gone.
We stopped watching due to burnout, seeing the same characters doing the same routines over and over. It felt like Hee-Haw in many ways, with the same corny jokes. I suppose we could ask why did Hee-Haw die?
A gem. One thing I miss about Roger is how he always accepted movies on their own terms. Note: “in their last film appearance before their deaths, Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy.” (emphasis mine)
He does mistake a banjo for a ukulele, though.
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The recent versions have tried to be up to date. The Muppet Show wasn’t up to date even when it was on. That was its charm.
I thought the 2015 show was dreadful for that very reason. I don’t have access to the new one.
I thought it was rather uneven; Martin Short was a hoot but other episodes, like Garth Brooks trying different genres, fell flat. The series probably would have been better with a different muppet as host.
Hey! My homey made of foamy was a great host! Clifford was perfect in front of the camera and Rizzo handled the backstage chaos just fine.
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I thought Pepe the Prawn was the host of Muppets Tonight?
I thought Clifford was the host.
Well, except when he was reviewing Star Trek films. Then all he cared about was criticizing the premise and nitpicking errors that, if he had bothered to think about them for half a second, weren’t really errors at all.
Pepe and Seymour were the elevator operators on Muppets Tonight.
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Out of curiosity, I read his reviews for the 2009 reboot film, then for The Voyage Home and The Wrath of Khan. I thought they were fair and did a good job of understanding that the key to the success of Star Trek is in the characters, not the science and not the action. True, he was distracted a bit in the 2009 review by questions of plausibility and technicality but – to an extent – weren’t we all?
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