In that situation, they were going to have to give the ball back to the Browns anyway. I agree that it would be a dick move if you were kneeling and could let time expire to then go ahead and kick the field goal. That wasn’t the case here, so there was no reason for anyone to call the integrity of the Steelers organization into question.
If they kicked a FG, you mean. I agree with that 100%. Whether the Steelers agree with that is something I don’t know. That’s what I meant by the idle “hold themselves to a higher standard” remark. Probably didn’t factor into the decision; I was just offering speculation.
Was the Browns return game any good yesterday? How about the Steelers’ kickoffs? Any problems there? Not having seen the game, if I had to pick one possible reason, I’d say the most likely one is that they wanted to be sure Cleveland started inside their own 30 instead of risking a kickoff.
Our kick coverage has been excellent this year, which is a novelty - a very, very pleasant one. We certainly held the Browns returners in check.
Our own kick returning was an adventure yesterday, but that’s not relevant for this particular discussion.
I really, really, really, don’t think that anyone **inside or outside **the organization would have had any problems with the ethics of kicking a field goal at that point in the game. Why would anyone be troubled by wanting to go up 13 to 6 when your opponent will have the ball and a chance to score at the end of the game?
Probably didn’t factor into the decision; I was just offering speculation.
Yeah, I realized what your point was after my last post - sorry to belabor the matter.
Was anyone else disappointed the officials didn’t call Shaun Rogers for the late hit on Ben? I like Rogers but that hit came well after the play was over and Roethlisberger certainly wasn’t prepared for it. Some were complaining about the call on Woodley, and it was borderline, but I felt it was a fair enough judgment call by the officials but the other hit wasn’t even close.
It was also funny to see McFadden called for illegal contact after Winslow pushed him around, no harm came from that one but it was amusing to see how backwards they got that call.
Woodley couldn’t have stopped. He was a step away from laying the wood to Anderson, so it should have been a continuation, not a penalty. Then again, QBs are sacrosanct in the NFL, so I understand the penalty.
Shaun Rogers wasn’t even in the frame when he hit Ben in his already separated shoulder, and he got bupkis. What he should get is a fine. If they’re going to baby Derek Anderson, the least they can do is cover one of the best quarterbacks in the league from getting hit long after the pass was away.
FWIW, I imagine Woodley can change direction (or stop) an awful lot quicker than Shaun Rogers. I do think he should have been flagged, though; clearly, if he’d been trying not to hit BR he’d have put his hands up.
Glad to see we won. I was out of the country, so I missed the game. I tried to record it, but neglected to rewind the tape so only got the first half.
Woodley probably wouldn’t have been flagged if he hadn’t have wrapped the QB up and taken him down. If he’d done the hands up running into the guy anyway move, I bet they wouldn’t have called it.
DeSean Jackson is the dumbest player… ever.
No he’s not. How quickly you forget Plexiglass and his spiking the ball at midfield after getting an unmolested first down, forgetting that he wasn’t in college anymore and turning it over.
That dude is so dumb he probably signs his name on his game checks with an X.
You’re right, I don’t remember that at all. Apparently the internet doesn’t either, or my Google-fu is just no good here.
Anyway, in that scenario Plax (presumably) at least thought he was down by contact. Jackson thought no such thing; he just completely forgot he actually had to take the ball with him to the endzone. Plus, Jackson’s screwup nearly cost the Eagles a touchdown as well as the ball. Plax just gave away the ball.
No more so, and I think actually even less so, than a fumble.
My understanding is that the clock stopped for the change of possession no matter what the play, whether pass or run. Unless you’re planning on Willie running around for 30 seconds, I don’t see the difference.
Nicer? The difference between a tie and a loss is more than just nice.
Sure the game was pretty much over, but that decision struck me as stupid.
It wasn’t a meaningless FG though. Assume for a second that you were playing a REAL NFL team and not the Brownies. You know you’re giving them the ball back and it is possible for them to go for a TD. Do you want to be up by 4 or up by 7 if that happens. It’s not “running up the score” anymore than scoring a TD to go up by 16 instead of 9.
The wind is the best reason I’ve heard. I still think a pooch punt would have been smarter, but I still say you kick the FG.
The difference is Jackson’s screw-up didn’t lead to a turnover because the Cowboys inexplicably didn’t pick up the live ball.
Yeah, but that doesn’t make it any dumber. Jackson just happened to get away with it.
That’s true, they’re both idiots.
I agree with this statement.