What the … !!! Didn’t like the Jim and Pam embrace at the end of last night’s episode.
I thought it was ok, but hope that it doesn’t mean that all is well now.
When Erin got mad, it reminded me of Andy.
I haven’t kept up this season. Why doesn’t Pam want to move to Philadelphia? Is she worried that Jim’s new business won’t succeed? Is Jim still employed at Dunder-Mifflin?
Nor I; it felt forced, weird, and fake.
Also, I really wish they had the balls to end the Jim and Pam thing. Pam just sucks now and I’d actually much rather see the writers have the balls to end it and have them find someone else (which they don’t do, of course).
Your first questions a good one. I think the fact is, she just doesn’t want to move her and her family to Philadelphia because she doesn’t want to leave Scranton. Even though Jim supported her going to NY, and her short stint in the Michael Scott Paper Company. But anyway, she wasn’t consulted with when Jim decided to go for the job, which is a legit reason to be upset. She also expressed concern that Jim has changed with Brian, the boom mic guy.
YES! But that Sh*t’s never going to happen! So if I don’t embrace last night’s embrace, well, I’m going to feel dissapointed with the whole “We LOVE ‘JAM’” ending. Might as well be content with it. 
Yes he is. Part time.
Me, too. That will be really lame if they spent all season building up this conflict between them and then resolve it in 10 seconds like that.
I loved Erin’s tantrum.
I also liked Nelly’s occasional snark during the contest.
I’m MAD!
Which the obvious retort would be concerns Jim has that Pam has changed.
Pam tried to change… she’s changed most out of anyone on the show. Look at where she ended up though; God only knows what she even does all day at work.
I *can *understand that being alone with two kids and work would be hard to take. She still seemed on-board when Jim finally did tell her.
So we have 3 episodes left, all an hour long… although the last episode might be “super-sized”. The online petition to “super-size” the episode needs less than 800 more votes. Apparently a petition to “super-size” an Office episode has worked before, and I don’t want to have to get the DVD to see all of the damn episode.
Be aware that I got some mail from Change.org after I signed.
For me, it was the only real moment of the night.
I haven’t watched the show in a long time but saw last nights episode, why are Pam and Jim fighting?
The problem with the Jim/Pam storyline is that they never committed to it. There was never any real sense that their relationship was in jeopardy. Showing a real fight between the two–real screaming, unfair accusations, draging up old grudges–would have helped with this, but the Jim/Pam love affair was pretty much defined as two people who may have been in love but were uncomfortable expressing their true desires. That’s what made their love affair so compelling when they were just missing each other in the early seasons, but it’s a problem in developing any real conflict now. The best they can do to express their true emotions is to use the stilted therapy-speak (which did make them sound high IMO).
Just watch the last episode before this one. In short; Jim started with a sports marketing job in Philadelphia, and Pam’s not happy.
I will repeat this over and over again until everyone remembers… SHE WAS TOO CONSULTED!
There were two discussions about Athlead. One over the summer that we didn’t see that would have involved Jim working part-time from Scranton and one later that we did see when Jim wanted to jump on full-time with them. She said “yes” the second time and only said “no” the first time to setup the “Jim’s lying to me” mini-arc.
After the first conversation, Athlead would have been Jim’s hobby. Pam saying “no” then is such an unrealistic plot point that the writers actually had her outright lie about it a few episodes ago.
I just saw the re-run last night. Jim said he was “in” with his friend, BEFORE he consulted Pam about it, (a second time)… and kept it a secret until Darryl got him to tell her. Her response was “I can’t believe he didn’t tell me”… but they made it out that she seemed on-board at the time.
No, this is wrong. Jim wasn’t “in” until he gave the $10K and agreed to work full-time in Philly… after discussing it with Pam.
Before that, he treated Athlead as the part-time hobby it was. The one Pam originally told him he couldn’t have. It’s only after it became too big (and with a little help from Daryl) that he told her and they had the real discussion where she said “yes.”
No, There was a time where Pam didn’t know of his minor involvment in the company. The friend of Jim said he would buy him a car if the company took off for coming up with the idea… that’s all the invesment Jim had in it. Then he told he friend yes, that he wanted “in”, kept the secret… taking secret phone calls and everything. Then he told Pam. Pam said “yes”, but was upset Jim didn’t tell her… then he took it up more full-time.
Exactly. He didn’t go into Athlead full-time until he discussed it with Pam. Before that, it was a hobby.
Ok, so we are on the same page…
I guess Pam didn’t know where it would lead to when she said yes. She should have though.
Remembering back I recall the tipping point in Jim making his decision was after going to Roy’s wedding. Roy had started a successful business, learned piano, etc. and was crediting his new wife for inspiring him to do so.
Jim & Pam kind of rode home in silence. Pam feeling low since she never “inspired” Roy to do anything and Jim feeling low since he was in a dead end job and was never inspired to do something ambitious like Roy.
That would have been a good time for Pam to let Jim know “I don’t need you to do anything ambitious. I like our simple life here in Scranton.” But she didn’t. She just sat silent giving Jim the impression she felt like a failure for not inspiring him and making him feel like a failure for not being inspired.
From there he took a leap of faith with the new business probably thinking he was going to get the thumbs up from Pam later when he suprised her with it thinking it was their “Roy” moment.
It didn’t go as planned.