If Georgia beats an undefeated LSU team, I really don’t see how Alabama gets in without other teams collapsing around them. As flawed as the CFP has been, I can’t recall strongly disagreeing with many of their selections. The only one I kinda disagreed with was when they selected Ohio St over Penn St a few years ago.
Oregon’s the only Pac-12 team that likely has a shot. Even if Utah wins out I read recently that their loss to 4-loss USC will likely keep them out of the CFP, a sentiment that I agree with.
I don’t agree with that at all. USC is likely an 8 or 9-win team. If Utah keeps destroying the PAC-12, particularly if they can beat Oregon, they’re in the mix. A lot would depend on how other teams play. The nightmare for the bubble teams is LSU losing to Georgia in a tough match. Bubble teams want LSU to beat Georgia.
Any bubble team not named Crimson Tide also needs Auburn to win, otherwise your 4 are:
- LSU
- OSU
- Clemson
- Alabama :rolleyes:
What the fuck is wrong with Texas? Why can’t they compete for the Big 12 title?
72 teams are bowl eligible which is a low number compared to this time in the past. 14 more teams can get win #6 this week. There are 80 bowl slots now.
I like the U[COLOR=“Black”]tah Utes[/COLOR]. MUCH more than I do the football team that represents the University of Nike. But when you look at the list of top college football teams in the country this year do you REALLY think that the Pac-12 champs belong in the top four? Really? I’m not talkin’ 'bout overall records. I’m saying: do you honestly believe that when you list teams from schools such as: Ohio State, Penn State, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan, Oklahoma, Baylor, Clemson, L.S.U., Georgia, Florida, Alabama, and Auburn that the Pac-12 champion (whichever team it ends up being) deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as any of those other teams? And as one of the top four of those teams? I have VERY serious doubts about that. I hope the Utah Utes beat C[COLOR=“Gray”]olorado[/COLOR] next weekend and then the University of Nike’s team in the Pac-12 title game and then I hope they have a GREAT time in Pasadena early next year 'cause I don’t see any way that they end up in the CFP. Not this season, anyway.
Until I see that the Crimson Tide have been left out of the CFP, I’m not gonna believe that it’s actually happened (as much as I’d like it to).
In my opinion the whole bowl thing has swung FAR too much towards being like “participation ribbons” for little kids. If it were up to me there’d be three rules about being “bowl eligible”: You’d have to finish with at least 8 wins on the season, overall, and if you’re a member of a conference you’d have to finish with at least 2 more conference wins than losses OR you’d have to be the official conference champion (in the case of a “lesser” team pulling off an upset in a conference title game). That’s it. If it were up to me if you didn’t meet those criteria you wouldn’t get to go to a bowl game in this day and age. Period. So, for example, from the Pac-12 this year under those criteria no more than 3 teams would be “bowl eligible.” That’s it. And as far as I’m concerned given the relative strength of that conference in football right now that’s almost more than it deserves. (I know that’s not going to happen because of the proliferation of bowl games over the last 3 decades, or so, but I’m just sayin’ that that’s how things would be if I ran them)
Yeah, U[COLOR=“Yellow”]SC[/COLOR] won 8 games this year but 3 of their losses were to a mediocre Washington team, a mediocre BYU team, and an above average (but not great) Notre Dame team. Personally I feel like their 8 wins came about not so much because they’re anything special but because the Pac-12 just isn’t all that strong. Look at the conference standings - it’s filled with team that have 5 or 6 losses this season.
And two of those are for the Celebration Bowl, which is two FCS teams - either that, or you are counting the CFP Championship Game. Either way, only 78 FBS teams can be in bowls.
A few other things to note:
If Missouri wins this weekend, it will be 6-6 - but it is still waiting for a decision on its appeal of its one-year bowl ban. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if the NCAA is waiting to see if it becomes bowl eligible, and if it is not, then wait until after the season and impose the ban on next season. OTOH, if Misssouri does win, I also wouldn’t be surprised to see it decline a bowl bid in exchange for this counting as its bowl ban season.
Eastern Michigan and Buffalo both have six wins, but both have a win against a team from the NEC, which doesn’t allow its members to give out enough athletic scholarships to reach the minimum required by the NCAA for an FBS team to count a win against them towards bowl eligibility. The last time this happened, the NCAA pointed out that, if you include non-athletic scholarships, the NEC team did meet the requirement.
Liberty also has six wins, but two of them are against FCS teams, and a team cannot count more than one FCS win towards bowl eligibility.
There is still a chance for Navy to win the AAC. If it does, the “Group of 5” Cotton Bowl berth has to wait until after the Army-Navy game before the committee decides who gets it. Also, if Army beats Hawaii, it can become bowl eligible with a win over Navy, so at least one bowl might wait until then before announcing both of its teams.
It was the case until relatively few years ago that a team couldn’t count any wins over FCS teams towards their total. Don’t be surprised if a time comes (and not in the very distant future) when teams WILL be able to count more than two wins against FCS teams in their total for the year. All that does is diminish the prestige of having been invited to a bowl game (more than it already has), in my opinion.
It was the case until not that many years ago when the NCAA didn’t care how many wins a team had.
Also, there is no case where a team can count two FCS wins. There used to be - a team that needed to count two FCS wins to be bowl eligible was placed in the “overflow list” behind the teams that played an FCS team that didn’t give out enough scholarships, but ahead of the 6-7 teams - but when the NCAA changed the rule to fill spots with 5-7 teams in APR order, it got rid of that rule.
Speaking of bowl eligible, all SEC teams that have a chance to be bowl eligible take one step forward - not so fast, Missouri.
Strange question of the day:
Suppose Navy and Cincinnati both win this weekend, and Navy beats Cincinnati in next week’s AAC championship game.
Bowl bids are supposed to be announced on, or soon after, Sunday 12/8, but if Navy wins the AAC, it can still earn a Cotton Bowl berth, but that won’t be determined until after the Army-Navy game on 12/14.
If Navy does get into the Cotton Bowl, what happens to the team that was penciled into the game on 12/8 (i.e. the highest ranked of the other four Group of Five conference champions - presumably, either Boise State or Appalachian State)? Does that team get into the bowl game that was going to have Navy?
For that matter, what if Navy wins the AAC, but Boise State and Appalachian State both lose, and Navy gets the “preliminary” Cotton Bowl bid, only to lose to Army?
Which brings up an even stranger question: what if, somehow, Army beats both Hawaii and Navy, and becomes bowl eligible? Presumably, this will only be a problem if either (a) there is a bowl that has to take a bowl-eligible Army, or (b) there aren’t 77 other bowl-eligible teams - otherwise, the bowls can just say that they couldn’t wait to see if Army would be eligible before making their choices.
That’s the big story around these parts. Mizzou is upset because they felt they tried to do the right thing - self-reporting, cleaning up their own house before the NCAA ordered them to, etc. Repentance didn’t go too far with the appeals committee.
What’s particularly galling to Tiger fans is that they feel Missouri was a lot more forthcoming and cooperative than Ole Miss was and still got hammered. No good deed goes unpunished, always deny everything, etc. etc.
On top of that, Missouri is suffering through a dreadful football season. There’s a chance they may tank against Arkansas this week and end up with a losing record. Now the alumni can’t scream at the AD to fire the coach, knowing that no good coach will come to a team under NCAA sanctions.
The bowl ban applies only to this season. The only other football sanctions are, a loss of 4.25 scholarships (including 1.25 freshman/JuCo transfer scholarships) next season, a loss of seven official visits, and seven weeks without unofficial visits, off-campus recruiting contacts, and recruiting communications. I don’t see why somebody can’t come into the program with those restrictions for one year.
How does the fan base feel about the baseball and softball tournament ban - didn’t Missouri make it into both of them last season?
there are only around 10 real bowls. Almost all of the rest are funded by ESPN . I’ve read that even for the crap bowls with 2 teams at 6-6 ESPN gets ratings that are decent (for college FB)so I guess they make a small profit or break even.
You forgot the loss of an estimated $8-$10 million Missouri faces by being not being part of the SEC postseason pool, especially for an athletic department that was already running a deficit.
As for a new coach coming into the program, would you want to come into a high-pressure job knowing that you’ll be at a competitive disadvantage (recruiting) for a year?
There are probably thousands of aspiring coaches in the US who are currently teaching PE at Podunk High, and hundreds who are coaching at smaller schools in smaller conferences. This would be a step up for all but a few dozen coaches in the country. The competitive disadvantage would be an excellent bargaining chip to help secure a guaranteed multi-year, multi-million dollar contract that would have you set for life, even if you got fired in the middle of your first season for getting blown out in every game.
So yes, I would take it in a heartbeat, unless I was already the head coach at a big school.
What the ever-loving fuck was up with the officiating at the end of the Miss St v Ole Miss???
What about the play where State jumped offside, ball was snapped and maybe a TD was scored (Didn’t really get a good review)? There was no whistle? Why was it negated?
And since when does a celebration penalty get assessed on a PAT attempt?? Never seen that. It’s always been on the kickoff, it seems to me.
If I didn’t know better, I’d swear it was rigged so another SEC team would be bowl eligible.
Prove me wrong! 
At any rate, Moore is an ass, and should be sent home on a cut-rate Greyhound wanna-be.